#76 - We Are In A Fresh Studio To Talk Polaris 36, ADCC Trials, And WNO 32

March 9, 2026 · 1:18:57

In this episode we break in the new studio at FloHQ with a recap of Polaris 36, preview of ADCC South American Trials, and talk WNO 32!

Summary

The FloGrappling Show kicked off in a new studio, immediately diving into a recap of Polaris 36 from London, followed by a preview of the upcoming ADCC South America Trials and a brief mention of WNO 32. The Polaris 36 card featured several standout performances, with the featherweight title bout between Owen Jones and Gianni Grippo taking center stage. Owen Jones secured the title, impressing with his evolved game, including strong wrestling, passing, and a slick armbar entry. The hosts praised Jones's continuous evolution and highlighted his team, Lo Spandito's, as a rapidly rising gym in the BJJ world. Potential future opponents for Jones were discussed, including Keith Krikorian, Josh Cisneros, and Fabricio Andre.

Other notable performances at Polaris 36 included Kendall Ruzing's dominant return to competition after a year-long hiatus. She secured a first-round armbar submission against the highly active Annabelle Lopez, signaling her strong intentions for the upcoming ADCC. Sarah Galvao continued her impressive black belt run, submitting Libby Ginge with a creative Kimura from a triangle setup, further solidifying her status as a rising star. The discussion also touched on the importance of her registering for ADCC trials. Ethan Crelinsten successfully defended his Polaris lightweight belt against Shay, showcasing his lethal back-taking and finishing skills, while PJ Barch delivered a fluid performance against Shane Fishman, demonstrating his

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Flow Grappling Show, aka the worst show on the internet. I'm Trey Robinson. That's Big Uncle Reed right there. And then we got Joey Gilps over there. And we're in the new studio, baby. Speaker 2: Oh, how do we get here? Speaker 1: Yeah. Huh? We transported from, we started out on a couch in somebody's basement, then we moved to this slick new studio at Flow HQ. Then we went back to a couch in somebody's basement, and now we're back in an even newer and better studio here at Flow HQ. Now, I want to, I want to be the first to do something in this studio. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: I'm going to be the first to moonwalk in this studio. Watch this one, boys. Get a wide shot of me. You're coming here, right? Oh, no. Ready? Speaker 3: Trey has a, Trey's doing a five out of 10 moonwalk. Speaker 1: Pretty close to a moonwalk. That's Speaker 3: Trey's the first person to nearly moonwalk. Speaker 1: They told me I wasn't allowed to. I did it anyways, dude. New studio, no rules. We can do whatever we want in here, dude. Anything we want. And guess what I want to do today. Speaker 2: Talk Polaris? Speaker 1: Talk about Polaris. Speaker 3: Talk about Polaris. Speaker 1: Talk about Polaris. Talk about Jiu-Jitsu. Talk about Jiu-Jitsu. Okay. Speaker 2: Talk about WNO. Speaker 1: We're switching it up. Yeah, exactly. A little something different today. We're going to recap Polaris and then we're going to preview ADCC trials. Then we're going to talk a little WNO 32. Let me take a, let me catch my breath from moonwalking. Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Speaker 3: I don't like that people can see our legs but can't see Trey's legs. That makes me feel weirdly exposed. I don't know why. Speaker 2: Good point. Speaker 1: You don't want to see Trey's legs anyway. I got some bunions going on, man. Speaker 2: After that moonwalk, they're quivering. Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shaking. Speaker 2: Behind there, you know. Speaker 1: Yeah, so Polaris 36 went down this weekend from Croydon, London, I think. I think Croydon is like the specific area, you know. Um, overall pretty sick card. I guess we can kick it off with just any big standouts from the card that you guys think. Was there anything specific that stood out to you guys? Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to start by talking about actually, uh, Owen Jones taking the, to me it was the match of the night. Owen Jones taking the featherweight title from Gianni Grippo. Uh, both men, I thought really acquitted themselves well, but man, just watching how much Owen has evolved his game, the wrestling, the passing. Uh, but still, you know, throwing it back to, you know, the reverse closed guard and some of the crazy leg entries, had a wild armbar at one point. Owen Jones to me, MVP of the night, did awesome. It was crazy, man. Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, you know, Owen has kind of been, uh, labeled a little bit as like a guard player and, uh, it was just awesome to see, like you said, how much his guard is, is, um, I mean, how much his, his whole game is, is evolving, you know. As I was watching it, I was like, man, we, we can't keep letting these Brits take us down. Like, what are we doing? Owen O'Flanagan out there is looking like a world-class wrestler. Owen Jones looking like a world-class wrestler out there. So, um, I was surprised at that, but it just goes to show you, I think Owen really is just such a student of the game and is constantly evolving. And, um, man, that, uh, that armbar entry that he had in this match might have been the, the sickest thing I saw all, all event. It was such a slick little entry to the armbar. Didn't, didn't end up get the finish. Shout out to, to Gianni's defense. Speaker 3: Sick escape, by the way. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. One of the hardest guys to submit in the sport for sure, Johnny Grippo, you know, and obviously he's been there against, uh, against everybody there is and, and we wanted to see this, this, um, Owen Jones match for a little while now. We tried to put it together on who's number one, like, uh, Owen said he had a little bit of visa issues, wasn't able to happen. So I was glad to see that we were able to, to see this one finally happen. Johnny versus Owen Jones. Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one that escaped the Jiu-Jitsu world for a little while, to be honest. I feel like there was for sure one time that it was pretty much like scheduled on WNO 30 or, uh, WNO. Speaker 2: Look at how dirty this is. Speaker 1: Yeah. That was insane. I mean, like, once Owen got the grip on it, he's just so sticky on that arm. Like, he's not budging, but Johnny just keeps working through it and, uh, getting his way through. I saw some people calling for, for a fake tap. Speaker 3: No. Speaker 1: I'm pretty staunchly like, very rarely is I think, do I think a true fake tap situation plays out, especially on super fight shows. Speaker 2: We watch that again. We watch that armbar again, Slack. Speaker 3: Slack, bring that back. Speaker 1: But yeah, pretty, yeah, we got, so Slack's still here, you guys, in case anybody's watching. Don't think Slack is MIA. This guy wouldn't miss a day of work if his life depended on missing it, dude. He's here and he's freaking making it happen. He's back in the control room running the clips for us. So if you think bad happens with the clips though, definitely call him out. Speaker 2: Oh, man, I just the way he like sneaks that, that leg underneath, you know. Speaker 3: It's so sick, such a creative counter to the, uh, to the waiter position, which Owen had been using in this match just a little bit before that. I thought that was very interesting the way they both were using the waiter guard, but Owen found his way into that nice sequence. That was, that was awesome stuff, man. Speaker 1: Yeah, I to your point about Owen's wrestling, man, are the Brits taking over the mantle as the best wrestling for Jiu-Jitsu lives in, in Great Britain? Like, I mean, I don't know if I'm ready to declare it completely yet, but these dudes are on their way. Like, they're kind of, you know, Dyson some dudes up on the feet. Owen O'Flanagan's wrestling looked incredible. Ferris has pretty good wrestling, you know. Speaker 3: Yeah, Ferris is a good wrestler. Speaker 1: Definitely good at winning the hand fight and stuff, uh, on the feet. Owen Jones, I thought Owen Jones has been looking like better and better at wrestling, you know. What was the match where he, uh, dropped the British D1? That was against Julian. Speaker 3: Julian. Speaker 1: Yeah, he dropped the British D1. And I thought he looked like vastly better at wrestling in this one. Um, had some sick takedowns against Gianni. Obviously, it's like, I don't think Gianni's out there like, I'm going to win this wrestling exchange. He's probably like, no, I'll, I'll play guard. I like playing guard. Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Jiu-Jitsu, you know. Speaker 2: But it's just awesome to see kind of like how these guys, guys are evolving and, and yeah, I just feel like you have to give props to that Lo Spandito's team right now. Like, they just feel like they're so hot and, uh, they're doing all the things right. It feels like, you know, kind of like that, that Unity room back in the day that was just kind of like, these guys are just going to war every day and there's tons of good guys in the room. Um, and obviously we were just so impressed with like, with the whole team at the last Polaris and at, uh, ADCC trials. So I just, you, you really got to shout out what the, what's going on at Lo Spandito's. We really got to kind of make another trip out there to, to Lo Spandito's and, and see what those guys are doing because it feels like it is quickly becoming one of like the, the top five kind of top three gyms in the world. Speaker 1: Dude, I already got, I got some stuff lined up for us if we visit Lo Spandito's. I've been working behind the scenes. I've been talking to Christian Osbeck. You guys remember when we had Nico on and we were asking him fan questions and someone, uh, asked about the Miami Blue Porsche and rolling around in it. Speaker 2: Mhm. Speaker 1: That's Christian Osbeck's Porsche. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: And don't you boys worry. Osbeck agreed, if we get insurance, we can cruise top down in that Miami Blue Porsche all around London, dude. Just some, just some lads out on the town having a swell old, uh, British time. So, Speaker 2: We just got to get insurance. Speaker 1: Now we just got to find somebody willing to insure. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at Photoshop. So Osbeck will be presented with, uh, insurance verification. Speaker 2: He'll get. Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll get, he'll get a verification of insurance. The legitimacy of, legitimacy of that is irrelevant. Like, we don't need to talk about the details. Let's start cruising, dude. We can't waste time, you know. Speaker 2: Who would you guys like to see, um, Owen fight on the next, uh, you know, he's obviously the champion and, uh, he's got to defend the belt here. So, I don't know, any ideas of on who you'd like to see, uh, Owen up against next in the next title defense? Speaker 3: A lot of options. I think there's a really important match for Owen, uh, with regards to, uh, ADCC and his preparation for that. So I, I don't know if we'll see him, I hope we see him back on Polaris before then. Uh, maybe like a Corbe, maybe like a Gavin rematch, uh, could be in the works. Uh, you know, we have Owen ranked number 10 right now. We have Gavin ranked number nine. There's a lot of really, really good guys ranked in that top 10 who I would love to see Owen face. Uh, young, up and coming, just got his black belt in the, you know, his black belt debut, beats him a multiple time black belt world champion, No-Gi, like, uh, Gianni is. Uh, you know, let, let's really take a swing here. Let's get him into somebody super tough. We're talking about wrestling. Let's see him against Josh Cisneros. Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. It's like another match that feels like has eluded us for a long time and to be honest, I'm not sure, uh, you know, what Josh Cisneros is up to these days. Speaker 3: He's been competing. Speaker 2: He's been competing. Speaker 3: He's been competing like up at like IBJJF lightweight, which is like 163. Speaker 2: So, you know, he's a guy that, um, I'm just never quite sure if he's, if he's healthy or not. Um, but would love to see that kind of third place ADCC match that we didn't get at ADCC. And yeah, I think, uh, Josh Cisneros obviously comes from a wrestling family, a wrestling background, and he would be somebody really good to test that, that wrestling skills up against. Absolutely. Speaker 1: I think, um, first I will go with the one Owen actually called for in the post-match, Keith Krikorian. I do think that would be pretty sick. Speaker 3: Sick one. Speaker 1: Um, I did, did they fight before on Polaris? Is that where this stemmed from or? Speaker 3: I think Keith was the former Polaris champion, but I don't think they faced off. Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, so maybe Keith, I guess vacated it or something and then, uh, now Owen's the featherweight champ for Polaris. So I do think that one would be pretty cool. Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that match. Speaker 1: I think, like, Keith, Keith, you know, we were there before when he was training with Jay Flo, getting his wrestling on and whatnot. So, you know, maybe he's got some sneaky good wrestling. Maybe he'll have something to say about this British D1 situation. Um, the other one that I think would be Owen versus Fabricio Andre. Um, I don't think that one's happened since like Honor. I think it happened on Honor. Speaker 3: Yeah, 2018. Speaker 1: Yeah, long time ago. But that was whenever, that was like pre-Owen Jones breakout. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: And I also know it's a match that like Owen Jones has cited, but he's also cited as Fabricio Andre as someone that like, when he was coming up, he would watch Fabricio and like, that was like one of like, he would cite Mayhem and Fabricio as dudes that like he loved watching and kind of like try to learn from and all that. Then he got to fight Fabricio, but he was just so early on. Even if it was just like a, like an early on in his own confidence and self-belief type of thing before he like. Speaker 3: I think he was probably already pretty confident, but I know what you're saying. Speaker 1: It's like winning trials, I think puts you in a different category of like, oh shit, I'm like part of now an elite group. Um, and now just how much success he's had since then becoming an ADCC medalist and everything. That I think him versus Fabricio would be a sick one. I also just think like, Fabricio is a guy that like, especially No-Gi, like can just make some of the craziest moments and most exciting matches happen. I'm not going to lie, it's obviously, you know, sometimes the featherweight division can be up and down. Sometimes it's like the best to watch, sometimes it's the worst to watch. But, um, sorry, I guess for the critique, but I think that's a, I think that's a truth. Maybe we don't speak about out there that it's like the best division and sometimes the worst. Um, but so I think Fabricio mixed with Owen, especially like kind of the Owen we saw in in the Gianni match, I think that would be a sick match for sure. Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Owen really doesn't get enough credit for kind of like really how technical he is in the, in the mind that he has for Jiu-Jitsu. You know, it's like when we were out there in Atlanta, it's all, all these guys, the Ardila brothers and, and Ernesto and stuff, you know, it's like they, they really would look to, to Owen for this technical advice and it seems like that, that's the kind of similar vibe in Lo Spandito's as well, where it's like, uh, you can just tell that Owen just has this kind of breadth of knowledge from being around so many different people and being around guys like Joseph Chen and stuff like that that he really thinks through these positions, uh, really intensely and, and has an answer kind of like for, for any question that, that might come up in Jiu-Jitsu. So, um, that's just one aspect I feel like that Owen just doesn't get enough respect on, but I do like the idea of, uh, him competing against a, uh, Brazilian in, uh, in Polaris because, you know, he went down to BJJ Stars, enemy territory, went to Brazil, you know, and, and, and had to kind of deal with all that and fought. So I, I, I like the idea of a Brazilian like Fabricio Andre or even Gabriel Souza or even Mayhem, um, going, going to Polaris and going to Owen's backyard where it seems like when Owen is in his backyard, man, he, he seems almost unbeatable. So I like that idea. Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets that Abu Vale crowd around him again. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: Deep into the wealth. Speaker 2: You can have like the, the full team kind of coaching him, hyping him up backstage and stuff. It feels like, you know, Owen is a guy who kind of, um, really likes to kind of like live off that hype or ride that wave of, of hype and, you know, with everybody kind of talking backstage and stuff. Um, and then the fans, you know, all cheering for him. I think that is something that really hypes Owen up too to kind of get to that next level. So I would like to see a, a Brazilian now go to, to Polaris and, and, and challenge Owen for his, his belt. Speaker 1: There you go. I like the sounds of it. Put it, put it as a super fight on, uh, Polaris, uh, Squads versus Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Speaker 1: BJJ Stars. How about that? Speaker 2: True, true. Speaker 1: How about that? Speaker 2: Little Brazil versus, versus, uh, Europe. Speaker 1: Let me get, let me get Feppa and Matt Benyon on the horns right now. Two, double horned up. Just talking to the boys, hey, I got, I got something. This just came across my desk, you know. Um, also it was, uh, Owen brought his dad out to that match. I thought that was cool. Speaker 2: Kevin. Speaker 1: Shout out Kevin Jones. Kevin Jones, it was his birthday and Owen flew him out or, uh, I guess brought him out probably like by train or black cab or something. However, however people in London get around, you know. But, uh, some other standout performances. Joe, you got, you got another one? Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about, uh, you know, she had been out of action for over a year, but Kendall Ruzing comes back and looks as good as, maybe we've ever seen her, to be honest. Super quality opponent in Annabelle. Kendall gets the first round submission by armbar. Uh, looked awesome, takedown to mount to armbar. Super classic. Kendall's back. Looks well set up for ADCC later this year. How do you guys think she looked? Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought she looked great for sure. You never know when someone's kind of been out of the competition circuit for that long, but also like, you know, Kendall's obviously focused on media and stuff a lot as well. So you never know, but I think she proved that, you know, she's one of the best grapplers in the sport for a reason. You can kind of see on the screen, this is her working towards this armbar finish, but yeah, I thought she looked great. Speaker 2: Yeah, a dominant win, really from, from start to finish. I feel like Kendall pretty much dominated the match and really kind of show, showed that, um, you know, even though there is this new crop of girls and, and Annabelle Lopez specifically has been on fire recently and, and, you know, a lot of people talking about her kind of being the, the next generation and kind of the next one up. And, uh, you know, Kendall, Kendall put a stop to that. Nobody told Kendall, right? Um, and so yeah, just super impressive just how dominant she was against a competitor who's been a lot more active than she has and has, and has that kind of wave of momentum at her back. You know, it was definitely, uh, you know, Kendall going into a little bit of enemy territory as well. Um, you know, she was the champion, but, uh, you know, Annabelle calls that place home. So, um, yeah, just a really dominant performance from Kendall and, and like you said, I think it, it really goes to show that she's like, no, I'm coming for that ADCC title and if you want that ADCC title, you're going to have to beat me. Speaker 3: 100%. I, I think that, uh, I mean, we know Kendall's history with ADCC, right? 2022, she gets the injury, uh, horrible, uh, uh, injury. She has to rehab and come back to ADCC 2024. I feel like in that tournament, you kind of watched her exercise some of those demons. Uh, and I felt like the version of her, you know, to be candid, that we saw against Rafaela in that semi-final was not the best Kendall. I feel like she, uh, just was not able to bring her skills to bear and she ended up in a guillotine really early on. Rafaela was able to get the submission win. Uh, Kendall was able to battle back for third in the absolute, which I thought was super impressive. Uh, and, and I think that 2026 is going to be, uh, maybe the best chance that she's had since 2022, when she wasn't able to finish out her day. I think this is going to be her best chance to come back and really show her best self. Like you said, Annabelle has just been crushing, right? Trials wins, No-Gi Worlds, uh, gold medals, No-Gi Pans, gold medals. This is a girl who's proven herself at the highest levels, Gi and No-Gi. Uh, and, and so for Kendall to come in after that much time off, uh, rust was no thing here. Uh, she just, it, it was the most impressive I've ever been by Kendall, considering the level of opponent and the dominance showed. Speaker 2: Mhm. Speaker 1: Yeah, I also, I like, I know we're giving Annabelle a lot of credit and I think she deserves it because Kendall could have, you know, opted for a slightly easier return match, you know what I mean? Like, Annabelle's obviously very, like, she has the accolades now for sure. No-Gi World Champion, Trials Champion. Speaker 2: Top five ranked. Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, there's no doubt that, uh, Annabelle's a deserving contender for like A belt in Jiu-Jitsu, but especially the Polaris belt. And that's kind of like one dynamic I like about Polaris and especially specifically how they kind of do a lot of their, uh, their championship matches where it's like, all right, we have the American Kendall Ruzing with the current open weight championship holding the belt, you know. Let's bring in, you know, a UK grappler to like get a deserved shot. So they bring in these like UK grapplers who aren't just like getting a shot because it's a, it's a, you know, like a London-based promotion. It's like, no, we're finding the ones who do deserve these spots that maybe aren't like, maybe WNO can't fly out Annabelle every time we want her to compete or something. She's just more expensive. So it's like, they kind of bring some of these athletes to the UK crowd to showcase kind of some of the talent and like, I guess how much, uh, like European grapplers are closing that gap. Same with like Owen versus Gianni, you know, bring in very established veteran in Gianni, have him fight Owen, you know, one of the biggest European stars right now. So I like that dynamic as well. I think kudos to both these girls, but especially, you know, Annabelle for deserving a shot like this and then Kendall for accepting a hard match like this when she probably could have gotten away with not such a hard match, but, you know, respect to her for doing it. Another, another girl who performed, uh, performed really well and impressed on the card is Sarah Galvao. And I mean, just like sick performances and making statements is kind of synonymous with Sarah Galvao at this point. Like, Sarah Galvao has to have one of the most incredible runs from like getting a black belt to just being not just so active, competing at the highest level, competing on the best cards, but just dominating along the way too. It's been like, I don't know. I don't think you could dream up kind of like a rookie year at black belt as well as Sarah Galvao is kind of playing out with this, but she fought Libby Ginge, uh, won via kind of like a Kimura with a triangle here. But what do you guys think about Sarah's performance? Speaker 3: Yeah, unbelievable. Sarah just continues to shine and continues to prove that she's one of the biggest stars in Jiu-Jitsu. She's one of the most exciting stars in Jiu-Jitsu. Always fighting the finish, always being able to do new things and show new aspects to her game. It's clear that she's a very creative person who's always trying to, uh, find new ways to grapple and attack and finish fights and be impressive. Here with the Williams guard, uh, I, you know, I don't know if people know Sean Williams, uh, who we have on WNO regularly as a commentator, kind of invented and popularized this version of closed guard where you have it overhooked with your leg. Won't get too deep into it, but it's what Sarah does here to set up the submission, uh, and then she would go on to finish with the Kimura. Unbelievable. Like you said, she's just having like this Cinderella, uh, freshman campaign. She's talking about trying to be a, uh, uh, super grand slam champion as a rookie. Obviously, that's unbelievable, but when was the last time we had somebody that could really pull it off like Sarah Galvao could this year? Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out Sean Williams. Absolute legend of the game. If you guys aren't following Sean Williams, give that guy a follow. One of the best minds in the sport of Jiu-Jitsu. Speaker 1: Came up with John Danher. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, maybe maybe he doesn't, Sean doesn't get enough credit. Speaker 3: That's black belt. I mean, that makes it sound, they, they came up together. It makes it sound like you came up with the idea of John Danher. Speaker 1: Oh, no. He invented what you know as John Danher. Speaker 3: The guy who plays the character of John, Sean helped audition him. Speaker 1: No, they came up through the Jiu-Jitsu world together. Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe they got their black belts on the same day from, from Renzo Gracie. So. Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: I think Slack, if you could take it back to the Sarah thing real quick. I know you're kind of, you progressed it along, so my bad. But just the setup in this is so sick how she like, at first it looks like she's going for kind of like that Mateusz Szyszynski armbar. That's the first thought I had where she reaches through right there and grabs the, the elbow and could pull it in, but then she uses that off the reaction to then close the triangle. Which I think is alongside. Speaker 3: All while being in like an Omo Plata. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I just thought this was so sick. Like right here it's like, all right, she's going to get the armbar, right? But yeah, you're, you're right. She has the, the Omo Plata locked on the far side. You'll see her arm come through, grab Libby's, uh, right elbow. She pulls it out, uses that space to then throw in the, the triangle right there. That was just sick. Like, that's just smooth, cool Jiu-Jitsu to be honest. So. Speaker 3: Kind of stepping on my bit here, but that's okay. Speaker 1: Oh, breaking it down. No, no, we, we've talked about this. The bell curve of breakdown. Wait, did I get too, did I get too in the middle? Oh, shit. All right. All right, guys. Speaker 3: You just need to hit him with like, damn, nice triangle. Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. I took one of Joe's bit, you get one of mine. Go ahead and rip one of my bits. You can do a worst show on the internet bit. You could. Speaker 3: Uh, what, give me a zin, give me a zin. Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't do that bit anymore, mom. Speaker 2: But yeah, just another dominant performance from, from Sarah Galvao. It's kind of what we've come to expect, uh, so shortly into her black belt career already. She's out there dominating. I feel like she, she got, uh, the back in the first round and was maybe close to a submission and then. Speaker 3: Like in the first like 20 seconds she was on the back, yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, yeah, just dominant wins for, for Sarah. She keeps racking them up. It's just crazy how kind of like she's, she's just kind of whittling down her, her rivals and opponents and stuff like that to where she's like, she's only can have maybe a couple like actually competitive matches it feels like because she's so dominant out there. Speaker 1: You know something I am bummed about involving Sarah Galvao? Speaker 2: What's that? Speaker 1: She's not registered for trials, is she? Speaker 3: No, I was going to bring that. I was thinking about that and the, the super grand slam aspect is like, man, but you're not doing trials and. Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe West Coast she could do. Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe she could do West Coast, but like, I know she's sitting now asking, you know, really hope she gets an invite, but like, okay, let's say there's an invite, but also Liz Clay is there who just tapped out Gabby Pasaña. Like, you know, it, it starts to be a real question. Speaker 2: Yeah, just and just invites for, for the women are, are tough to come by because they bring back the four, um, you know, kind of placers and then they have the four, um, trials winners and that's already eight. And so you're kind of really relying on somebody getting hurt and pulling out last minute to, to kind of get an invite. So it's just. Speaker 1: But I definitely, I definitely hope we see Sarah in some trials, whether it's like, you know, late registration in the second South American trials. I don't know if that's still possible. Probably is, would be my guess. Speaker 2: Probably. Speaker 3: I don't know. It's the kind of thing they'll let in Sarah. Speaker 1: And then, uh, or maybe even West Coast trials as well. I'm sure she has the American passport, right? Speaker 3: Or find like a Polynesian aunt and enter Asian trials. Speaker 1: True. Good point. Um, yeah, hey, Sarah, get your passports up. I don't know how many you got, but. Speaker 2: That's the, the next step. Speaker 1: All Jiu-Jitsu athletes need a minimum of three passports in three different ADCC trials regions. Speaker 3: If Sarah were to come to us and be like, I'm 1/16th Samoan and just like wait for us to call us, call her on it. Are we going to call her on it? I'm not calling her on it. Speaker 1: Honestly, the only reason I am not an ADCC medalist is because I only got one passport. If I had three, I would be an ADCC medalist. Simple as that. That's the hard part. Speaker 2: There really are some guys who are just like, man, you are a citizen of the world, aren't you? Speaker 1: All over Taza or whatever. But yeah, so great job by Sarah. And then another one we got to talk about is Ethan Crelinsten. Ethan kind of main evented this bad boy. Uh, he has the current Polaris lightweight belt and he was fighting Shay here. Shay won a contender's bracket to get his shot at the Polaris lightweight belt, which is a cool way of doing it, you know, respect to that. I think that's a sick, uh, kind of little dynamic for setting up a match like this. But I also think, you know, there's a reason some of these guys are the champ. There's a reason some of these guys kind of have been holding it down at the highest level for so long. There is, you know, still just a little bit of a skill gap here and I think it was kind of all Ethan here. You can see kind of towards like the end of the first round, so like four minutes into this match and he's already on the back and, I mean, not a place you want Ethan to be, you know. One of the best back takers and finishers in the sport. Speaker 3: 100%. You know, the reason that when one of those major upsets, uh, and this would have been a major upset. Uh, the reason that those major upsets feel so crazy is because they're so rare. Uh, and we got to keep those in mind sometimes when we see moments like this and they gave a young up and coming guy in Shay his opportunity and he wasn't able to convert on it this time. Still a brown belt, still up and coming in the sport. Um, and that doesn't mean we should stop giving people opportunities. That doesn't mean we should stop, you know, letting people, giving people the opportunity to do a crazy thing that seems impossible because those things are going to continue to happen, but it didn't happen here. Ethan was able to turn that tide, uh, and keep it in, in, and hold it down. Uh, yeah, Ethan's super underrated, right? People kind of forget that Ethan really is one of the best in the world. He's another guy who I'm not sure what his ADCC plans are this year, uh, because I think 66 is really difficult for him. I feel like he feels like the best at 155 and 145 is a little bit too much. Uh, yeah, Ethan, awesome job. Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Shay will obviously get a lot better from this experience, you know, and, and take, take a lot from it, you know, especially when the, when the lights are on and you're, and you're competing against the best in the world. That's where, you know, you can, no matter what, you're going to really kind of learn something, take something from it. So I'm sure he'll be back, but yeah, it was good to see Ethan. I feel like I haven't seen a whole lot of him, you know, recently. And, uh, just great to see kind of what he's doing. Obviously, he's still a lethal back taker, you know, kind of true, true to what he's done for a long, long time. And, uh, still, still a killer out there. So hopefully we get to see kind of more of Ethan out there. I feel like he's a guy, another guy who's kind of just, um, had some injuries in during maybe some of his best moments and just hadn't quite kind of conquered that ADCC mountain, but I think we all know he's, he's capable of, of something like that. You know, it was just, it's just like a, a timing thing and, and trying to kind of find the, the perfect weight class, I guess. But, uh, yeah, it was great, great to see, uh, Ethan back out there on the mats and, and doing his thing from, from Simple Man. Speaker 1: Definitely. Speaker 3: 145 to 170, which is the ADCC jump, right? 65 to, or 66 to 170. Speaker 2: 25 pounds. Speaker 3: Should there be another weight class in the middle there? Do you, you know, should there be any movement there? Should they potentially move up 66 to like 70 and put in like a 62 or whatever, you know, like maybe like a smaller guy's thing, you know. I feel like there's like just so much talent in the sport under 170 pounds that to give 16 spots is like kind of tough. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I definitely hear that. I just feel like, like the weight classes how they're set up kind of are still iconic for, for ADCC. Speaker 3: They really are. Speaker 2: You know, and, and I totally agree. Speaker 3: You just either remember. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I totally agree that like you, you definitely could find a lot of guys, you know, lighter than 66 and kind of in between to kind of make their own divisions for sure. I, I do agree with that, but there's just something, there's just something cool about, you know, this is the weight class, make the weight or, or don't, you know, and, and, and this is what it is. But. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely a gnarly jump. I think maybe there's some other things to adjust as well before. Speaker 3: It's not my number one priority. Speaker 1: Um, but yeah, shout out Ethan. Great performance by him, you know, it is always great getting to watch Ethan compete. Feel that like, has he competed since CJI? Speaker 2: CJI was the last one. Speaker 1: Like, yeah. So, um, shout out him. I think rest of the card, uh, winners were Ross Nichols. We saw PJ Barch. Oh, maybe Slack, if you could pull up the Instagram to pull that magic stick that PJ Barch hit. Um, I was super stoked for PJ Barch versus Shane Fishman. And I feel like it delivered in some aspects. I wanted more in some aspects, you know, it left me a little wanting a little more, I will say. But I did also think, you know, like we knew this was going to be like Shane Fishman's guard versus PJ's passing and like kind of who could crack that code first. And I do think that's kind of how it played out, but this is, uh, this is PJ's, you know, best attempt here. I mean, maybe he got like a legitimate pass. I'm not sure. It didn't count, but he has the magic stick right here on Shane. And then goes into like a leg drag position. Speaker 3: So sick. Speaker 2: PJ so fluid, the butter panther for a reason. Speaker 1: Yeah, just great movement out there, you know. And it's, I don't know, you got, you got to give him a shout out a little bit for kind of being one of the, uh, the veterans of the game these days, you know. PJ's been out there for, for a long, long time and, and, you know, been in many ADCCs and, uh, I just love that he's, he's still out there doing it and, uh, yeah, even I was talking about this with Slack a little bit over the weekend actually, just like what a badass PJ Barch is, you know, that he's still just out there kind of putting it online. And you just, I don't know, I feel like you can really tell how, how much like, uh, this means to PJ, where it's like a lot of other guys sometimes maybe you can't really tell, but I feel like I can always tell that like, you know, these things really, really mean a lot to PJ and getting a big win. So, um, yeah, shout out to PJ. He looked great. The, the movement and everything like that. He, he's, he's in a class of his own there, I think. Speaker 3: Still, by the way. Yeah, we're talking about like, that's not like a veteran style game. It's usually not like a guy that you would think of as a butter panther. Speaker 1: Exactly. Speaker 3: Right, for his smoothness and fluidity. Speaker 1: Yeah, you think he'd be kind of locking it down a little bit, but he's still out there kind of, you know, jumping. Speaker 2: A little more deep half in the rotation. Speaker 1: Uh, but yeah, man, like, you know, I put it in our little work chat this weekend, but like PJ's one of the best representatives. Speaker 2: He truly is. Straight up. Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, he truly is. Um, he's a, he's exactly the type of, uh, you know, game I feel like kind of a lot of people want to play. He's got the leg locks, but, but you're not taking him down, you know. Um, that's just like such a sick game to play. I feel like. Speaker 3: He is, but yeah, even just like behind the scenes dealing with him, like the coolest, chillest dude, cool with everybody, always on top of like the next trends and like what's coming up, shows a lot of respect to the younger generations, hops in ADCC opens brackets. He tapped some out. Have the footage. Get the footage, promote yourself. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: I mean, he, he genuinely could still be kind of beating that drum of like, I got screwed by, uh, in the match with Mika, you know, he like, he, he could be kind of like really making a, yeah, yeah, exactly. Be, be really bitter about that and, and whatnot. But he, he's never said a word really, I feel like about that and, you know, like he let, lets it kind of live on the mats and then the refs make the decision and, and he'll become better from it, you know. So, yeah, I just really respect his kind of mindset. Absolutely. Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just a chill guy, cool guy, old PJ, you know. That, that PJ's a good guy, you know. Speaker 1: Smart guy, when you hear him talk, like you can tell, you know, there's a, there's a brain in there. He's posted about things like, uh, some issues that have gone on in the sport before. I remember thinking like, wow, this is a really nuanced take from. Speaker 2: 10th Planet, 10th Planet diehard, you know, like I feel like he doesn't have like the quintessential 10th Planet game, you know, but he still reps 10th Planet super hard and, and is owes a lot to 10th Planet. So. Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out 10th Planet South Bay. PJ's gym. PJ, if you notice too, PJ did this match and then he jumps over to the barricade, sits in the corner and coaches Owen in the, uh, next match. So, you know, just sick move by him. I got, I got a, uh, funny PJ story from 2021 No-Gi Worlds. We were talking about that in lead up to the GP. Um, I don't know why I'm so locked in on 2021 No-Gi Worlds. One of my favorite events ever. But, uh, PJ made the finals against, it was either finals or semi-finals. Might have been semi-finals actually. I can't remember who it was against, but he's like mat side and this is like, PJ's just like really chill. He also is just like, not too concerned, I don't think with like, necessarily like changing how he grapples for rules or anything like that. And he's like doing the butter panther thing. He's getting all loose, you know. He's just a, he's just a suave individual, you know. He's got an aura about him as the kids would say. And he's mat side and then they're like, they do the like, you know, come on to the mats thing. And PJ, I was like sitting there filming PJ like, ooh, yeah, getting the shot. And he looks over to me, he's like, do I got to, do I go, do I shake their hands first? How do I do this? And I was like, I was like, It's the semis, you did. Yeah, I was like, oh, what? Like, I just got like kind of like shocked like, uh, Dude, headlock. I think so. I don't, I don't know. He's like, okay, okay, thanks, man. And then he like goes out there and just like is awesome. I was like, damn, this man out here just freaking coolest can be, just like, hey, do I shake their hands first? I'll, I'll, I'll dap him up. I'll dap him up. Speaker 3: That does, that, that did happen to me, uh, before, uh, match at, also No-Gi Worlds. Uh, yeah, it was a, a wrestler who things ended up going crazy. But right beforehand, he was in the finals, uh, Pat Downey. Uh, yeah, he, uh, like the, the, the three guys on the mat, uh, and he like turned to me real quick because I'm, I'm sitting there and he's like, do I shake all their hands? Do I shake any of their hands? What do I? Speaker 1: Shake every hand you see, brother. Speaker 3: Just go shake all their hands. It's cool. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he took that, uh, you know, too literal and started kept shaking hands. Speaker 3: Yeah, just keep it all, just keep it respectful out there. No problem. Speaker 1: Yeah. But, uh, yeah, so shout out PJ. Um, is there anybody we missed? Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just going to say the, the, the double Scottish twister was pretty sick, uh, going on there. Speaker 1: I don't even know if they were Scottish twisters. Yeah, everybody's kind of debating about if they're even. Speaker 2: I don't know what a Scottish twister is. I'll just say it, dude. They were, they said it on commentary and I was like, sure, Scottish twister. Let's, let's roll with it. Speaker 1: I was cool calling it a Scottish twister, but now everybody's telling me it's a guillotine. I don't know if it's a guillotine. Speaker 2: Okay, so to clarify this, yeah, so to clarify this, Slack's pulling up the post right now because there, this was to open the Polaris card. Speaker 1: First two matches. Speaker 2: First two matches of the prelims, as the commentary called it, we hit, we saw two Scottish twisters. I was, I was hitting the Google machine afterwards. I first I opened Google, then I typed in google.com. That opened up the Google search bar and then I searched Scottish twister. Hit the Google machine, the long way, the scenic route. And then, and then I watched a video about it and I think the, the first one that happened on the card is the Scottish twister. Speaker 1: They're slightly different. Speaker 2: Yeah, so he has like the body triangle and then he, see he has the arm behind his arm and he, he's captures the head. Take it over, Joe. I don't want to. Speaker 1: No, no, please. Speaker 2: So, so right here, he has the arm behind him and the guy uses it to tap back there. So that one I think is the Scottish twister. Now go to the next one. And so this archer fella, he was in the comments being like, it's a guillotine. And then people were like, don't call it a Scottish twister in front of Archer. So I think the difference here is if you see his opponent, his arm stays in front of him. And then he reaches back right there with the arm still in front and just kind of finishes it that way, which I think is the decapitor, to be honest. I think that move is called the decapitor. If, if he's hitting it the way Justin Raider hits the decapitor. That was the first guy I knew kind of do that, but I don't know for sure. Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit more. That looks like the decapitor. Speaker 2: Well, I was just going to say because I feel like he, he, um, he has like the body triangle and I feel like Justin never had the body triangle. Speaker 1: Gotcha. But he would have it from the back? Speaker 2: From the, from the back or, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, he would just reach, reach around. Speaker 2: Same kind of. Speaker 1: Same idea. It's a, yeah, there's an upper body, lower body difference going on here. Because to me, the Scottish twister, which first came about from MMA fighter Stevie Ray, Scottish guy, who took on Anthony Pettis in the PFL, submitted him with this move. I think he won another fight. This started calling it. Speaker 2: I think, I think he fought on Polaris too. Speaker 1: There you go. Speaker 3: Uh, shout out Stevie, clearly made his mark, uh, on everybody. Uh, but to me, the Scottish twister was regular twister, so you're like kind of reaching with that like half Nelson-ish kind of grip around the head and you have a body triangle. Both these guys just reach around and grab the head. One has the arm in the way, almost like a D'Arce, one doesn't. So I don't know what the, what the fuck we're calling it or what the hell we're doing. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: This just feels like when you go to like a gym that's not a big gym, they're like, we got a move, but the, uh, the, the, the, the. Speaker 2: Legs, Kimura. Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they just have some crazy catchy like, the car crash. We're going to show you the car crash today. And then you look at it, you're like, yeah, triangle with a Kimura. Okay. You know what I mean? Uh, uh, and just everybody has their own cool little trendy name for it and Decapa knowing all these things. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And, and I get it, you know, you want to, you want to, you know, make it a trend, make it a trend. Speaker 1: I worked for BJJ Fanatics for five years. I understand naming your moves. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Name the moves for sure. But to me, it's still looks like both guys tapped to like their spine being manipulated. Speaker 1: Not being choked. Speaker 2: Yeah, not being choked. Both of them seem to. Speaker 1: Because even the guillotine was like, he was like, his armpit was across his face. I don't think he was choking anybody. Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't look like they still, neither of them looked like a choke. They still both looked like they were attacking the, uh, the spine to me. And so that's why I was like, yeah, I guess they're both Scottish. Speaker 1: I, I will say add this. I petition to change the name from Scottish twister to just, it's a twister. You just got to use a Scottish accent when you say it. Speaker 2: Scottish accent. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So we, we can drop the Scottish word and just say it, twister, whenever you say it, you know. But I'll say this, hey, clip this right now because we need to settle it, all right? And chat, tell us what is that move called, all right? Tell us right now what that move is actually called. And we'll get to the bottom of it. We're, we're heading into, you know, the, the court of public opinion. The, the, the public will decide what that's called. And Slack, uh, make a reel out of that real quick. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: You can, yeah, you can clip me saying. Speaker 2: Drop that up before we go. Speaker 1: It's one thing we know all the commenters will agree and we'll get this settled. Speaker 2: If you want something settled, just have the internet take a look. They always figure it out. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, usually. Speaker 1: Yeah, a little peek behind the curtain. Slack, take the part about me saying like, oh, we got to settle this and then put that out the front and do it and then put the end be like, chat, you decide. There we go, you know. Speaker 3: It is such a brutal way when you like zoom out to like, so how'd you win your match? Oh, I was ripping his spine. Speaker 1: Yeah, for real. Speaker 3: Like you're like a Goliath who like picked up a guy. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that dude can't walk no more. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I started just twisting his spine so aggressively that like he really had to stop. Speaker 1: I threatened to rip his spine out and so he had to tap. Speaker 3: So. Speaker 1: Little sub-zero finisher. Speaker 3: There's that and then on the other end of that spectrum is like, yeah, wrist lock, caught him. Speaker 1: Yeah, just classic closed guard armbar. Speaker 3: Dumb and got the wrist lock. Speaker 1: But no, shout out those dudes, man. That, you know, regardless of what it's called, super sick Jiu-Jitsu. Always awesome when you can see some stuff that you don't know exactly what it's called. Uh, so shout out to those guys and, and kind of, uh, you know, everybody's keep, keeps, uh, keeps the Jiu-Jitsu world evolving. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, so great card by Polaris, uh, out in London. Uh, like we mentioned, we, they already have their, their next one kind of announced and everything. Do you guys know the exact date on that? Speaker 2: No. Speaker 1: Maybe I can, I'll look that up. But I know that it's going to be a Squads event, so they're going back to Squads. Speaker 2: It's like early June, right? Speaker 1: I think so. Speaker 2: Yeah, like seventh. Speaker 1: June 7th, maybe, does, does sound familiar. But, uh, they're going to have Polaris Squads taking on now BJJ Stars. Listen, WNO couldn't get it done, all right? Our boys fought valiantly. They went into enemy territory. They gave it all they had. They were a great representative of the WNO brand. But now we got Feppa on the horn. Speaker 2: They lost the battle, but the war's not over. Speaker 1: Yeah, we got Feppa on the horn because we got more promotions where that one came from. We said, Feppa, send out the best you got. Open the pocketbook. Send the boys over to the, to the Great British land because we're taking this one back. So Polaris, you better be ready, dude. We're in cohorts with, uh, with Feppa right now and we're coming for that ass, dude. We're not going to stop until we have it all. Speaker 2: I'm just going to put this, they, they should have a special stipulation on this one. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: The losing squad, that country, their Jiu-Jitsu guys can no longer do Peaky Blinders gimmicks. Speaker 1: Yeah, all true. BJJ Stars has done it. Speaker 2: For the. Speaker 1: Oh, everybody on BJJ Stars has done it a billion. Like every time I turn on BJJ Stars, it's like, okay, here's the three guys who went with a Peaky Blinders thing for their BJJ. Speaker 3: Because he's a Belgian. Speaker 1: Debuted one time. Then they did the full event. Speaker 2: Like Pedro Mourinho shows up sometimes in like a little Peaky Blinders thing. Gaudio always has that hat. He's been doing that since before the show. Uh, yeah, so just like, we got to settle it once and for all, who gets to do Peaky Blinders? Speaker 1: I don't think the Brits want it. Speaker 2: I don't. Speaker 1: I don't think they do either. Speaker 2: No, but they would. Speaker 1: No, but they would want the Brazilians to not have it. I feel like that would. Speaker 2: Oddly enough, the only. Speaker 1: Yeah, the only people I haven't seen do it are the British. They might not be into it. But, all right, so yeah, so keep your eye out on that, uh, next Polaris coming out. Going to be a sick one. But you guys want to dive into some ADCC trials preview now? We got ADCC trials South America about to go down. It's going down over two weekends, the first and second trials are going to be March 14th and then March 21st. Um, should be pretty sick. We got some of the names pulled here that we're interested in watching, you know, some of the big names. Not everybody, but we're going to try and talk through some of the cool stuff to watch here. We can kick it off with 66 kilograms for the, uh, Rio de Janeiro trials. What, what kind of stands out to you here, uh, Joe? Speaker 2: Let's throw down. Speaker 3: Sure. I, uh, I'm definitely taking a look at Kai Gabriel. He is, man, when I say for it at all, I just completely, I look like a dark vizier, uh, with my eyes and the shadows. Uh, Kai Gabriel is back. ADCC veteran. Last time he has yet to win a trials, though. Uh, and I think that this is a division where a lot of Milky guys have kind of been sniffing around it. Obviously, Diogo's doing his thing. In one of the best 66s of all time at this point. Uh, but this is, to me, Kai going to be the number one seed, going to be the guy to beat. Felipe Machado, obviously super mixed, but then you got a guy like Joshua Flores. Joshua Flores made the quarter-finals at both trials last time, uh, at only like 17 years old. He's back. I think he's 19 now. Super excited to see what he's going to be able to do. If there's one guy that's going to upset the apple cart there, I would circle Joshua Flores as the guy to do that. But there's a lot of tough guys here. Speaker 1: What, what's the age for our WNO 145 youth bracket? Speaker 2: 16. Speaker 1: Okay. Cuz so Josh Flores is 17. Speaker 2: I think he's like 18, 19. Speaker 1: Gotcha. All right. I saw some people tagging him and I was like, oh, if he's still like, you know, 16, then for sure, but. Speaker 2: A little too old. Speaker 1: Little too old. Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's 18. Speaker 1: I saw some people tagging him and I was like, oh, if he's still like, you know, 16, then for sure, but. Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing for that, for that WNO bracket for everybody knows, we're trying to go with people who are like IBJJF juvenile eligible. You know what I mean? That was kind of like the rule of thumb. Uh, maybe if somebody was younger, you know, but like super sick, we would, you know, you know, figure it out, but like, yeah, there. Speaker 1: But I, I definitely think Josh Flores is a, is a person to watch in this bracket. I think he's sick. I do think Kai Gabriel is going to be hard to beat and I think Felipe Machado is going to be hard to beat. I do, I kind of, if I had to give, you know, my lowly humble prediction, I'm kind of maybe leaning Felipe Machado. I think Felipe Machado is pretty nasty. Um, we've seen him kind of in some crazy matches. He was on the, the wrong side of that crazy Fabricio Andre step over armbar where Fabricio Andre was just on a tear. Just wading through an absolute wasteland of, uh, former teammates. Speaker 2: That really was the craziest run I've ever seen. Speaker 1: It was nuts, dude. It was so crazy. And Fabricio was just full Hokage, you know, he was just an absolute madman. I don't know if you, if anybody watching's ever interacted with Fabricio, but Fabricio is a cool guy. I like Fabricio a lot. That boy's crazy too, though. He gets nuts. He starts going crazy. He'll yell stuff at you. Um, he'll call you names sometimes. He doesn't always mean it. He'll take it back later. 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