#370 "Sitting Guard is SOFT" | 951-Hot-Take #2

Speaker 1: Yo, this is Max. Speaker 2: Max, what's up? Speaker 1: I'm from out of Tenth Planet Portland. Um, I started jiu-jitsu at 33. I'm 36 now. Um, and I I own and run my own little uh painting company. I do drywall and carpentry and paint houses and uh climb ladders all day and then come in and do jiu-jitsu. Um, so you don't get to give me shit. This is my hot take. You don't get to give me shit about sitting guard if you sit work. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 1: Okay? You do not get to give me shit for sitting guard if you sit work. You don't get to sit at a comfy little desk and twiddle your fingers on a keyboard, save all your energy. Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Speaker 1: Eat. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 1: Snack. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 1: While I'm fucking 24 feet up, 36 feet up with a sprayer and a and a roller in my hand. And you're and you're gonna give me shit. I started jiu-jitsu so I could come sit down. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 1: I started this hobby because I saw a dude sitting down. Now, if you work blue collar and you go to jiu-jitsu and you wrestle, respect. And that's compared to you. But uh, but yeah. And pass my guard if you don't like it. I don't know. Shit. Speaker 2: Man. Max. That's number one. I mean, we haven't been doing 951 hot takes for very long, but that's that's number one right now, right? Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good. You know, uh, who he sounds like? Why are all these uh drywall and painting guys so mad? That sounds like our buddy Xavier. Speaker 2: He does. Speaker 3: He sounds just as mad as Xavier would be, right? Speaker 2: He does. That was a very Xavier-esque take for sure. Cuz like it was the creativity of the negative thought, right? It was you sit work is so real, right? Like that is uh, yeah, I don't think I can judge the guy. What is we gotta we gotta shout out Max. Where did he say he was from? Speaker 3: Portland, Oregon, Tenth Planet, I think that's what he said. Speaker 2: Is that what he said? Did you just make that up, bro? Speaker 3: No, it was like I was Tenth Planet and I think it was Portland for sure. Um, but Speaker 2: Let me see. Let me see. I think his, I want to say that when he called Maxwell Painting and Restoration, when he called it showed up on his on the old Google Voice. Man, they got they got all your info, man. Speaker 3: Yeah, sponsor the podcast, Max. Speaker 2: Yeah, sponsor the podcast. We really crush it in in Portland, you know? We're really huge out in Portland. Um, so yeah, drop some comments if you are watching this from Portland, so then our boy Max will sponsor the show. Um, but excellent hot take. I think that the the most common hot take that we get is the guard pulling argument. Speaker 3: Mhm. Speaker 2: Is it really that common of an argument or is this like art imitating reality and we're like, are we are we making this up is what I'm saying? Is there or do people really care that much about guard pulling versus wrestling? I just in our place, we really don't. Speaker 3: Mhm. Speaker 2: But is that really as common as people act? Speaker 3: I mean, bro, you see like I feel like you can see competition clips pretty often where someone is very mad that their opponent is sitting guard, which is pretty lame. Uh, Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, I don't know. That was an amazing hot take. I loved it. Speaker 2: That really, yeah, that was just so creative. Brian, thoughts? Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't disagree with him at all. That was hilarious and uh perfectly formatted for this podcast. Speaker 2: It pretty much, yeah, it ends the debate. You can't you can't as long as you're a blue collar worker, you're allowed to sit guard, man. Speaker 3: And how dude, really it is crazy the blue collar workers that are out here still wrestling too. Like how much energy do those guys have? Why are you still doing that to yourself, right? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: I I sit at a desk and I pull guard for all your wrestlers. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 3: I suck at jiu-jitsu. How do I suck less? Speaker 2: But you don't judge anyone else for doing it. Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. Actually, so I have a reverse hot take for us for that kind of uh for the whole wrestler's guard pulling thing. I think um after two to three minutes of patty cake fighting standing up, one of the guys needs to pull. The ref stops the match, forces him to pull, and then you have to wrestle to get back on top if you want to be on top. Do jiu-jitsu. Speaker 2: Just start down at some point. Speaker 3: No, my bad. What are you gonna say? Speaker 2: I was gonna say what if you make him start in 50/50? Speaker 3: Yeah, that that would be awesome. If you stall out wrestling, you have to go to 50/50. Speaker 2: Oh, that would be so funny. Speaker 3: Nothing is worse than a jiu-jitsu match though, when the guys are just not really going for deep underhooks, overhooks, they're not going for any legs and they're just pushing each other back and forth. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: That's the worst. Speaker 2: They're just slapping each other with collar ties. Speaker 3: Yeah, man. It's just such a poor representation of wrestling. Like if you want to wrestle that bad, then dude, get down and freaking wrestle, bro. Why are you like I understand, I don't know. I'm sure after a 10-minute match, my ass would be exhausted too and I I don't care. I can't say much, but Speaker 2: But I just think, yeah, I agree. But there's also this level of wrestling for jiu-jitsu is just not really taught well, you know, not many people know how to actually take good wrestling because okay, so you'll have a guy who wrestled in college at your gym and he's like a wider a blue belt and everybody looks to him including the coach for all of their stand-up advice. This dude had never put on a gi, you know, until six months ago. And the rules totally change when you add a guillotine, right? Your ability to where your head is, which is pretty much the most important thing in grappling, it changes when the guy can choke you. And so I think that a lot of it has more to do with just lacking understanding of wrestling. What you really need is you need guys that are legitimately good in jiu-jitsu and legitimately good at wrestling, right? So like guys that wrestled their whole life that then actually become a legitimate jiu-jitsu black belt. Those are the people that have a just a perspective that is crazy valuable. You see Jay Flo is like the perfect example of this. He will be showing little details to the highest level jiu-jitsu guys and the guys that we all think of as the best stand-up guys in jiu-jitsu and you can just see the difference in, you know, in knowledge of of how to stand up because he has not just such a high level wrestling knowledge, but also high level judo and high level jiu-jitsu knowledge. And so that really allows him to kind of blend everything and I think give that perspective, but I just think that that perspective really isn't available for many people. I think for us, we actually are super, super, uh, you know, we have freaking Jake Flo's roommate in college. Yeah, and um, you know, we have, you know, two different black belts that were also very good collegiate wrestlers, just really high level wrestlers and good teachers. And so having that perspective for us, I think allows us to be more judgmental if somebody, you know, especially like you see the ADCC rule set where guys are pretty much forced to wrestle and then those are just like them slapping each other in the head a bunch, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah, it just sucks. Speaker 2: Um, next hot take? Speaker 3: Um, yeah. Speaker 2: All right. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 2: Holy smokes, there was a long time between the dial tone there. Speaker 1: Oh, my name is Sydney Barber and I train at Four Combat Sports. I'm a four-stripe purple belt. Um, nobody cares about masters athlete medals. Speaker 2: Oh, come on, Cindy. Speaker 1: Um, you know, nobody figures out, oh, he's in an age division between this and that and he got the medal. Um, it it becomes unimportant. And you know, I would actually have to agree. Um, I'm a masters athlete myself, so, um, yeah, let me know what you think about that. Speaker 2: Cindy, my friend, the only part that I disagree with is the word where you said, it becomes unimportant. It wasn't important to the adult, my friend. It wasn't, especially a purple belt, you know, like Speaker 3: Four-stripe purple belt. Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't or brown belt. And honestly, sadly, in my own heart, I even know that a black belt adult, it still is unimportant, you know, it doesn't it doesn't we're just we're just pajama wrestling, man, or worse, spandex wrestling. Speaker 3: I'll I'll tell you what though, bro. Uh, maybe in ADCC divisions, I'd say, yeah, for sure, no one knows anything that's going on in the masters divisions there. But if someone in IBJJF came out right now and a master one light feather beat Jo Al Meow, I feel like that would be pretty shocking and a lot of people that are really that like, I don't know, close following the jiu-jitsu scene would be pretty like shocked and just like, I don't know, yeah, interested in that. Speaker 2: I I see that. Like so like name value still carries more than the division. Speaker 3: Yeah, bro. Speaker 2: And I think that that's I've seen tournaments where people have cared about the master one, whatever weight class because there was a few tough guys. And then in the adult division, everyone's like, I don't even know who these people are. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 4: I agree with Bryce's opinion, but I also just wanted to agree with the uh with the guy because none of the matches I lost this year would have mattered then. Speaker 2: That makes sense. Yeah, if the wins don't matter, then the losses don't matter either. Speaker 3: Once again though, master one purple belt. Yeah, doesn't doesn't matter. Speaker 2: And that's yeah, I'm I'm telling you, I felt I have won adult black belt divisions and master one black belt divisions like two months apart. And both very dominant performances. But after having competed for long enough, I realized like, ah, neither of these these are just fun for me, you know? They're just they really they really are. It was funny at the adult one because I hadn't done adult in a while and the guy I beat in the semis, I think was supposed to be pretty tough, but I didn't paid attention to adult either. And afterwards, he's like, hey, man, are you gonna go to Pans? And I'm like, nah, I'm not I'm not going to Pans. I don't I don't even compete, bro. And he goes, oh, and I go, are you going to Pans? And he looked at me and he goes, probably not anymore after you beat me. And I was like, ah, bro, I'm sorry. And then I had to explain to him like, hey, there's something that only you and I and my friend Cindy Purple Belt, four-stripe purple belt know, and that is that this jiu-jitsu stuff, it's not important. You know? It doesn't matter, bro. Just go to Pans, it'll be fun, you know? Speaker 5: Yo, Josh here, just wanted to interrupt the podcast really quick and tell you guys from right now until May 1st, we're doing a pre-order of I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show rash guards. Every time I wear one on the podcast and a video goes viral, there's comments going, where do we get these rash guards? Where do we get these rash guards? It's not where, you can always get them at inposewill.com. It's when, and right now, we are doing a pre-order from now until May 1st. You do not want to miss out and not be able to let people know that you too suck at jiu-jitsu. Let's get back to the episode. Speaker 3: I still think I stand by my hot take still of dude, unless it's like Worlds, ADCC Worlds, like one of those crazy big competitions. If you wear your medal, especially if it's not first place, if you're wearing your medal five minutes after you step off the podium, you're a loser, bro. Take off the medal. It does not matter that much. Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think, but here's the thing. Yes, it does not matter much. It doesn't matter at all. But to the boys, it matters so much. You remember times when you're just, you know, let's say hypothetically, we're all going out first round of Master Worlds Jiu-Jitsu Con just day after day. Just people are flying in only to lose in the first round. And then we get to Master 37 division purple belt and we get Nick De Matrilis to show up. He cleans out the division for us and then we all feel something again in our heart, you know? We go out and celebrate. But what does Nick do? Speaker 3: Nick will throw his first place medal in the trash can at Worlds right after he walks off the podium. Speaker 2: That's a great point. This is a great point. Speaker 3: The greatest quote of all time. I hope it was entertaining. Speaker 2: After we all lost. Speaker 3: Everybody lost the whole whole weekend. Nick goes up, wins Master Worlds the second time and then says, I just hope it was entertaining for you guys. Speaker 2: And see, and that's the beauty too that we have to look at because the old guys at our gym, that's what it's about for them. Like think about this. Nick had like six hard matches that day. And the way he does jiu-jitsu, he had six six-minute offensive matches where he was just doing offense, never holding a position for more than five seconds. Just, you know, working way too hard. But you have to think about this. At however old he is, how many years of his life did that day shave off? You know, that excitement like that was a big sacrifice for the boys. So to Cindy's point, maybe it does matter. Maybe it does matter, but only to a very, very specific group of people. Speaker 3: This is slightly off, but still I think my favorite jiu-jitsu meme ever, you guys have definitely seen it is uh I don't know what movie it's from, but they're in the car singing, uh, dancing in the moonlight. And it's like the the first place guy, second place guy going crazy. And then the third place guy's just sitting in the passenger just all slumped over. Hilarious, man. Speaker 2: That's that's how it be, bro. Speaker 3: Did I tell you guys the story? I went to Chicago for a concert. Uh it wasn't a jiu-jitsu tournament trip at all. The IBJJF had already happened, I guess for the summer. Um, and I went to an Irish pub with two buddies and we're in there and I look up at the uh behind the bar, just hanging on the wall with all their decorations and shit. Um, there's a IBJJF uh Chicago Open medal hanging up and I'm looking around and I'm like, who's is that? I'm like checking out the bar staff trying to like eye down who I think would be the jiu-jitsu person. And then I ended up asking somebody. I was like, hey, who trains? And just asked about it. And they were like, no, someone came in after that tournament happened, I guess and just was like them and their boys just fucking hyped up and they were cheering. And it was a third it for sure was a third place medal. Speaker 2: That's amazing. Speaker 3: And it was up there and the staff never took it down or anything. Yeah, yeah, it's super funny. Speaker 2: I feel like didn't we do something with the Master Worlds medal? Didn't was I know Nick wouldn't wear it even though we were begging him to. But didn't wasn't there something? I thought we were maybe not. Maybe I'm maybe I'm crazy. Speaker 3: I know Jeff was probably wearing it around his head or something. Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows, man. Um, let's go on, get our next hot take. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 1: Blue belt here. Fernando Valley. I'm gonna stay anonymous. Uh-uh. I see you guys sitting out a round. And then you try to capitalize on me when I'm fucking tired as hell. That's just for the birds, man. If there's no even numbers in class, you better be doing jumping jacks, burpees, running laps for the whole duration of the round that I'm in. And then you can roll with me after. So you ain't gonna sit around, watch me get smoked, watch me play my game, get tired as hell, and then capitalize on the fact that I'm exhausted. That shit's whack. We see you. Speaker 2: We see you. Yeah. Speaker 3: Bro, why are you getting smoked and getting tired during your rounds, dude? Don't just don't get smoked and be tired after your rounds and then you'll beat that guy's ass. Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it stay ready? You know? Speaker 3: Uh also, I mean dude, if there's an uneven amount of people in class, someone's gotta ask for a roll afterwards. Speaker 2: And do burpees. Speaker 3: Dude, if I'm doing burpees in between rounds, just unload a clip on me, dude. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather just keep doing rounds than have to get up and just start doing burpees and shit. Fuck that. Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm honestly, one of my favorite things is how often people try to vulture me. I mean, that's what most of my training is, you know, is that people are trying to stipe me. They're like, maybe, maybe today could be the day. But you stay ready, you know? Like I've been near throw up and then been like, okay, well, I have at least one low single left in me, one guard pass and one lay on your face from mount for four and a half minutes. Always got that in me, bro. That's that's that dog in me, man. Speaker 3: Yeah, I would honestly hate to be you, Josh, because anytime we go train anywhere, you have at least like five or six people like lined up that already asked you, hey, do you want to roll? Do you want to roll? You're like, bro, I got four people in front of you, but yeah, we'll get to it. Speaker 2: But it's fun too, you know? It's fun knowing like, hey, I literally can't just show up and have fun training. It's to the death. It's it's, you know, I don't know. Like I think you earn that, you know? Speaker 3: And uh usually what I do is I go ask the people that you just tap the pressure. I ask them to roll right after. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 3: I've trained with you enough to know. Speaker 2: Yeah, just style on them. There have been just some beautiful times though that you get it's not like a lot of the call outs I get now is I've, you know, become an old man myself. I feel like I get the masters division call outs, man, and those guys are typically pretty cool. Sometimes some of them want to prove something and so they have to be pressure tapped. But most of the time they're cool. Every once in a while though, they'll give me a 19-year-old, 20-year-old kid that is just as cocky as Jeff with like 1/10th of the skill. Speaker 3: Hey, his cartwheel pass though, they always got the cartwheel pass ready to go. Speaker 2: Oh, dude. And I am just, yeah, and those those are my favorite that's like that's what jiu-jitsu is to me. Is like, if I can just once every two weeks beat up a different really cocky 19 or 20-year-old kid, then I'm happy, you know, that's that's what training is. That's what staying in shape is. It's all that matters. Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Speaker 2: What do you got, Brian? Thoughts, comments, concerns? Speaker 4: I don't know, we've been talking so long. I forgot uh what the original hot take was. Speaker 2: You know what? Speaker 4: It's the the rest round. Speaker 2: Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, yeah, screw that. I'm not doing burpees or anything. I'll just keep doing rounds. Speaker 4: I just, yeah, it's just the mentality of there are people that really do it for sure that really wait for people to be tired. Um, and you know, like joke about it, but that is a super annoying thing to do because it's just trying to perform in the training room and it's not trying to get better, right? Why does it why is there any value that you can beat up somebody when things aren't even close to even? Speaker 3: I was gonna say obviously we we've established it's a Josh McKenney thing. Like, right, that happens to you. Does that happen to black belts more than any other belt, do you think? Like, do you think the higher up you go, people are more ready to jump on that? Speaker 2: I'll say this, it definitely happens to black belts that let it. Like in some way or in a good way, some are just like, yeah, I just don't really say no to rounds. Um, but some are more of like, like for me, I just, you know, I enjoy training that way. It's fun. Um, but then there are guys that are like still just there to learn as black belts. And they're a lot of guys that take advantage of that because then they can be like, oh, well, I can beat a black belt, right? And so I see that like just around. I definitely see that being a thing. And usually it's the nicest guy black belts that that happens to because they're like always always cool about learning and they never really care. And so, yeah, that's when I'm like, yeah, that's that's annoying, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: We'll bury somebody at Head Nod for that. Speaker 3: Hell yeah. Speaker 2: All right. Let's move on. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 1: Hey, Josh. Cannon here. Purple belt at a Gracie Baja Hayden, Idaho. I'm a 155-pound 29-year-old. And it drives me crazy when the big guys say, oh, you just got that because you're little or because you got short legs. No, I didn't. I got that because you let me get the underhooks. Because you let me wrestle up. You got 100 pounds on me. You should be smashing me. Not little guy jiu-jitsu, and it's not big guy jiu-jitsu. It's jiu-jitsu because it fucking works. Speaker 2: With the dad at right after the F bomb. Let's go. Speaker 3: You hear that, kids? Speaker 2: Honestly, Gracie Baja Idaho goes so much harder than any Gracie Baja I've heard of. That was that was where he said Idaho, is that what he said? Speaker 3: I was Gracie Baja somewhere. Speaker 2: Yeah, Gracie Baja, wherever this dude just said, goes so hard, bro. It's jiu-jitsu because it works. I dig it. I dig it. I don't know if I've ever heard a big guy be like, hey, you got that because you're small though. Those big guys sound soft as could be. Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think big guys probably have the softest egos in jiu-jitsu because when they do get beat by someone smaller, like, dude, I could see it hurt people sometimes. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That used to be my favorite thing was letting Jeff just beat down arrogant big guys. Cuz at 125, everybody's significantly bigger than you, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: And yeah, you're right. They would they would get the bruised egos for sure. I always but like, would they ever say that you being smaller is your advantage? Speaker 3: No, I've never had anybody actually say that to me or have I seen anybody say that. But uh, I can I can definitely see it in their eyes more than anybody else. Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been competing at featherweight for, you know, six years now and that's literally never happened to me. I've never gotten that compliment before. Speaker 2: Um, yeah, maybe it's because you guys are always avoiding big guys, you know? Maybe it's because Speaker 4: Our gym? Avoiding big guys at our gym? Speaker 2: I was just kidding. I was just throwing something out there, but you took a lot of offense there, Brian. Speaker 4: I was like, where where are all the other small guys at? We got we got Ronin and maybe Xavier and Jeff and, you know, that's the extent of our rounds. Speaker 3: Oh, dude. We got beat down though. We got some small white belts and stuff now. Speaker 4: Well, that's the white belts, you know. I'm thinking of all the guys that have been training with us. Speaker 2: Oh, okay. They don't even count. Speaker 4: We and Bryce and I definitely had to learn just training with bigger guys, you know, that was uh, you know, starting out at white belt, think about Head Nod 2020, where I 2021 and everything. Uh, yeah, it was it was a rough uh stick it out and figure it out or die. Speaker 3: Especially during COVID. We just, yeah, only rolled with bigger guys. Speaker 4: Mhm. Speaker 2: That is uh, and and honestly like for me, that was my mentality for a long time too was just those were before we had a lot of skill at our gym. Those were just the best rounds that I could get were with big guys. And I remember like there was a period, I think Casey was probably a blue belt, but he was I would do three rounds a night with him. That was like one of my main training partners because he was, you know, 6'5 and 280. It was just that like getting and he had wrestled and so it was just like it gives me a feedback. Like people always ask on the show when I talk about rolling without strength and removing strength. And they're like, oh, well, what does that even mean? What is 50% strength? And the simple way to look at it is just to go, well, if you have, um, if you go with somebody who is obviously bigger and stronger than you, if you go with somebody who's 300 pounds and is a strong 300 pounds, the stuff that you try to use that makes you tired and does not affect them is your strength, okay? Because when you're going to meet them with strength, they just have a lot more and so it doesn't it doesn't matter as much. When you can do the moves and get to the positions you want and accomplish the task that you're trying to accomplish without getting tired, it's showing that you're using technique. That's the, you know, that is the difference. And so, um, yeah, with big guys, there's this big value in being able to train with ones that don't injure you. And you'll be able to go, well, I can't use strength to beat this guy because he has more of it than me, right? That's the beauty of rolling with people that are just significantly stronger than you or more athletic than you. You can go, well, if I get something to work, it is technique. It is not strength, you know? And so, um, yeah, that's my TED Talk for for that hot take. Speaker 3: Makes sense. Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Speaker 3: I didn't mean Bryce and I only roll with Speaker 2: Listen, we know that you only roll with little guys, Brian. Don't go back on it. We know like like here's the question. When's the last time you did an open class, Brian? Speaker 4: Oh, damn. When's the last time I medaled enough I medaled. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaker 2: Why'd you gotta why'd you gotta bring that up, Brian? Speaker 4: It's all right. Hey, we'll we'll work this out and we'll get back to you. Speaker 2: Let's go with our next hot take. Speaker 5: So, I'm gonna let you in on a little secret that big cotton does not want you to know. Don't even get me started on big polyester. But right now, we are in the middle of a secret war. It is between hemp and cotton. One of them shrinks, isn't durable, and holds bacteria. The other is hemp. And the beauty of hemp, not just is how durable it is to make a gi out of, to make a backpack out of, to make a fanny pack out of. The beauty of hemp is that it is anti-microbial, meaning that things are not growing and living inside of your gi. And that is a beautiful thing to know because you can know that with your nose. Your gi doesn't stink. You are not the stinky guy. And our friends at Datsusara are the company for hemp jiu-jitsu. They have gis that are made of hemp. They have some of my favorite bags. They have some of my favorite fanny packs. Again, all made of hemp. They don't hold odor. They are super durable. They look really cool. You get all kinds of compliments on them. And if you use promo code I SUCK at DSgear.com when you check out, you get 10% off of your purchase because they love the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show just like you do. And so be sure to check them out at DSgear.com. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Lily and from Voyage Jiu-Jitsu in Michigan. And I'm an eight-year-old gray belt. And my hot take is, when you say you want to go light, of course I'm going with 100% power because I feel like you're lying. What? Speaker 2: Well, Lily, I think that you nailed it. She just I don't know if you guys caught it, but she said, when you say you're gonna roll light, of course I'm gonna go 100% power because I think you're lying. They're always lying. No, no one ever has rolled light after saying let's roll light. Would you agree? Speaker 3: Yeah, but this hot take almost makes me think like I'd hate to see this girl when she grows up. She's gonna be going crazy on people. Speaker 2: I was about to say, who's who's going hard and beating up this little kid? And we need to know. Speaker 3: Well, nobody's going hard and beating her up. Speaker 2: She's she's taking care of business, bro. Yeah, and so Speaker 3: Those other eight-year-olds better watch it, bro. Speaker 2: Yeah, that's their problem, dude. Like she knows. Like basically, this is what the hot take was. Don't gaslight me. Don't gaslight me. This is you're gonna get you're gonna get beat down if you gaslight me. And her honesty, it keeps that weird thing from happening where they were like, oh, you said that we were gonna roll light. You're like, nah, I never said that. I gave a hot take on the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show and explicitly said, we're not rolling light. Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Speaker 2: That's cemented in time now. Yeah. I uh, I'll tell you this, if I'm ever training in there, I'll probably avoid Lily though. You know? Like me, I'm I'm aging out a little bit, you know? I don't I don't need to be dealing with that. That's too much for me. Speaker 3: She's gonna be waiting for those rest rounds. Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna be vultureing me, bro. Speaker 3: Next hot take? Speaker 2: Yeah. All right. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 1: This is Brian. Train over at Westminster Jiu-Jitsu, brown belt. I got a hot take. If you are going to film an instructional, wear a different color rash guard or gi than your gi. Sometimes it takes me a hundred times to watch the video or the instructional or whatever because your arm looks exactly the same as your gi's arm and can't tell whose arm is who. Speaker 2: Okay, Brian, you call in with this, but you didn't read all the comments when I threw the red gi on Jaden. You know? You didn't have everybody being like, what's with this red gi? You know? Like, bro, I'm trying to just I'm trying to just further the sport here with some better visuals. You know? And so I I agree. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: We've been guilty of of doing it. Speaker 3: On the older older YouTube videos for sure. Speaker 2: Yeah. But I'm not the video guy, so it's really not on me as much, you know? Speaker 3: No, that's definitely a planning um, yeah, miss. Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I I guess I am the uh, the outfits guy. So that is on me. Speaker 3: I do I think even like teaching class, it helps so much when people are wearing different color gis. But I mean, obviously it is what it is, but uh, yeah, pretty valid hot take. Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta bring two gis. Two gis everywhere that way you can swap out if you have to. Speaker 2: Well, you always that's honestly professional Uki move that Jeff will always do is anytime I ask him to Uki, he'll never ask me what gi to bring. He'll bring like three different colors. And he'll be like, I figured you might wear this, so I'll have my white. I'll and it does it really does make a big visual difference, you know? Um, yeah, but we're we're guilty of it. We've got some we've got some instructionals out there that you can't see very well. Speaker 3: Black walls, black gis. Speaker 2: Hey, hey, but we're we're figuring it out. We're getting it figured out. Speaker 4: Should we just standard make all of our Ukis wear red gis now? Speaker 2: Here's what I've always thought. And I know that you guys, Bryce is always aggressively disagreed with this. But I've always thought if we took these mats that we have and replaced them with black mats. And then we would just obviously never ever wear black because everything would be black. I feel like that would be like the red gi with just all black. There would be no light bounce at all. It would just be like we're floating in space doing jiu-jitsu, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah, man, but it's I don't know. Even even like a blue on the black mats would look a little like weird. Speaker 2: Well, you can't wear blue either. Speaker 3: Only bright colors. Speaker 2: Only white and red. Yeah, we only we'll get custom, yeah, we'll get custom stuff, bro. We'll get, you know, inposewill.com, uh, where we are selling I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show rash guards right now. We'll have that. So it'll be cool. Um, anything to add with how badly we've done filming? But hey, people would agree. Production wise, we've been popping a little bit lately. Speaker 3: Doing better. Speaker 2: People have been saying things. Views have been popping off. People have been excited about things. Speaker 5: Okay, guys, so I lied to you. I am a liar. That's my bad. So, my friends at BJJ Mental Models, they were gonna send us a new course, but they keep messaging me saying, hey, too many people keep downloading the Rob Bernaki course to move on. I mean, they're giving away an $80 course completely free just because they love the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show, just because they love I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show listeners. So if you go to BJJ Mental Models.com/suck, you get to get Rob Bernaki's seven-part course, Jiu-Jitsu for Imbeciles, completely free. This is a conceptual approach to jiu-jitsu learning and to all the things that make jiu-jitsu work. It'll take all those moves, all those random techniques that you know, and allow you to kind of systemize them into a format that has been proven. And again, this is completely free because the people at BJJ Mental Models love you guys. So if you go to BJJ Mental Models.com/i-suck, you will be able to download this free course from Rob Bernaki, and I am telling you, it is going to change the way that you look at jiu-jitsu. Speaker 2: Let's listen to the next hot take. Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 1: This is Avery from uh, oh, Avery, brown belt from Golden Jiu-Jitsu in Golden, Colorado. Avery. If you wear a rash guard with a skull on it, you are statistically more likely to gas out in the first round. I have zero science to back this up. I've just been watching people gas out in skull rash guards for 10 years. Speaker 2: Dang. So, Brian, how do you feel about your cardio? Do you feel like your cardio's any different? Speaker 4: My cardio gets better. That's actually how I get that's that's my Super Saiyan, actually. I power up putting on my skull skull rash guards. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna do a round with this guy and we'll see who gases out faster. Speaker 2: Dude, I'll tell you this. I've I've reviewed a bunch of Avery's rounds. I'm pretty sure it's the same guy. Uh, I don't know. He might gas you out, man. He might gas you out, bro. I don't know. Uh, Speaker 3: He he said he's been training 10 years. Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, I think I think he's a brown belt. Uh, but uh, yeah, he's got good jiu-jitsu too. Good good stuff. Asks me good questions too. Speaker 3: Good stuff, Avery. Speaker 2: Uh, but uh, yeah, I have a skull rash guard. It's my hidden jiu-jitsu one. Um, it's like it's a sunset on the top and then there's a skull. There's always something hidden in the hidden jiu-jitsu rash guards and shirts. And it's the skull. It's like the sunset skull. Speaker 3: Nice. Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, I don't have the best cardio. I'm not I'm not. But I don't think it has anything to do even when I wear I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu stuff. I don't have the best cardio. Speaker 3: What do you think the correlation is there between skull rash guards and gassing out? He's just saying like probably dudes in their 30s to 40s that Speaker 2: I would I would say this. The correlation has to be that no offense, Brian. This is not directed at you. But I would just assume that for a lot of people that approach life with the mindset that I should have a skull rash guard, probably approach everything with a very intense mindset, including their first round. You know, like they're probably there's probably not much warm up. It's probably just like, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy definitely has an anecdotal story where somebody somebody did something to him, right? Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems I've just it seems as though like I could see that being the case, you know? Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: How many people at your gym train in skull rash guards? What's making you so mad? Speaker 3: Maybe it's everybody, you know? Speaker 2: Who knows? I want to go buy this one. I've been looking at now. That's one I've been eyeing online. I'm have to go pick it up. Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll link in the description. We're gonna do an I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu show skull rash guard too. Speaker 2: [laughter] Speaker 1: [phone ringing] Speaker 2: Hey, Josh. Chris Lez, black belt and owner and head coach of Archimedes Jiu-Jitsu Academy in Shreveport, Louisiana. All right. I just wanted to say that ecological constraint or ecological jiu-jitsu or whatever the eco bros call it. It's just this one part of the whole. You still have to drill, get those reps in, and then do some designated winner, do some situational positional sparring, and then add your full sparring. The fact that they think that they could just take a brand new white belt and just play a game and get results at the highest levels is ridiculous. That's all I got. Out. Speaker 2: I like how he threw in designated winner. Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super cool. Speaker 2: You know, I'm cool with designated winner. But you're about to say something. Say it, bro. Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like I kind of disagree. I mean, just cuz like I feel like people associate the like CLA eco games with just like going 100% during those games. When a lot of that almost is designated winner. And I definitely think designated winner style like drilling can get someone from white to black belt at a high level. Um, I'd say that's most of you know what me and Brian have done for real. I mean, of course we have done dead pan drilling. I think at some point if you're doing jiu-jitsu long enough or I mean, yeah, just I mean, not even if you're a white belt, wherever you go train at some point, you're gonna do that, right? Unless it is Greg Souder's gym or, you know, whatever the hell. But uh, no, I I think designated winner is almost I don't know. You could put that into the CLA eco games and yeah, I don't know. I I think you you can definitely get someone to a very high level with that style of training. Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the negative of actually feeling how the rep should actually feel with a level of resistance that you can actually accomplish it while you're, you know, figuring it out for the first time. Like where does what why would that not help? Speaker 2: Yeah, I I don't know. I think that it it really and this is just always been my theory and I stay true to it is that there isn't one style of learning that is definitively better. I think it's dependent on the person. Um, I learn differently than other people learn. And so to if you made me learn jiu-jitsu like a perfect example of this, like the way Mikey Musumeci learns jiu-jitsu with that much drilling, I could not do that. I just one, I would find no joy in it. I wouldn't be able to like a lot of me learning jiu-jitsu is just not that anymore. It's a very different style of how I get better now. And so, um, and it probably wouldn't he would probably hate that style of getting better, right? And so to me, it's just this thought of, well, does that mean that I need to repetitively drill? You know, is that the is that the only answer then? Like, no, because there's other guys that get better doing completely different things. And so I think that so much of it does have to do with kind of, you know, to this listener's point, actually getting the experience of all these other styles of training and all these different methods because to me, they're they're all tools to getting better. And to say like, oh, well, I would never drill a move. I would never, you know, do a positional sparring, never do any of these things. Well, who knows? What if I am there were there have been times that I was doing kind of like drilling or designated winner because I was planning on competing and I was injured and not feeling very good about like, like basically like, hey, I don't want to actually do live rounds until I go compete, but I need to get movement in. And so I can use drilling for that, right? So to say like, oh, what I would never ever drill a move, there might be a reason for me to. But to also then be like, oh, well, the only way to get good is to drill then. Also not the case. I just think it's I really think it's different strokes for different folks. Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with that. But no, I mean, yeah, I don't know. People that do I I honestly, I don't know if I've really trained with anybody that's like really good at rubber guard, so it's not something that I've had to like and it's not something I've ever explored, so. Speaker 4: Why are you getting put in rubber guard, bro? Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I uh, I I agree. I don't I don't haven't gone with many. I've maybe felt like one good rubber guard ever. Um, but uh, yeah, I think that replacing it with Williams guard is generally the safer move, the safer option. But Speaker 3: I usually go Chino guard. Speaker 2: No one even knows what the Chino guard is cuz it's so many different guards. Speaker 3: It's whatever you need it to be. It's whatever you want it to be. Speaker 2: It is. That is the truth. That is the truth. I think that, yeah, I think that ending on bashing essential oils and then I guess if anybody wants to comment on that and be angry, they can. And of course, if anybody wants to give us a hot take, 951 hot take, just look at your phone, there's those little letters on it and just 951 and then spell the word hot and then spell the word take. And then you're gonna get, I don't even know what I say on it. I think I just tell you to keep it anonymous or leave your belt or whatever. But here's the thing. People dropped so many freaking hot takes. That's just like the first time we've done this. I told you guys we had I I had enough for the episode and then I went to the Google Voice just to see if anyone had left anything and we had 13 unanswered ones. And so people love being able to drop the hot takes and people are already getting better at it, you know? Yeah. I think it's cool uh this episode we had a lot of upper belts. I know Avery Avery dropped three hot takes on us. So thank you, Avery. Uh but no, I feel like we did have like a lot of a couple school owners, black belts, uh yeah, a couple or a few brown belts. That's super cool that yeah, the upper belts are, you know, interacting. Uh cuz, you know, white belts' opinions don't matter, so. They don't matter. Call in if you're a white belt. Oh, man, no, please call in if you're a white belt because we will roast you for no reason at all. Even if you're so polite on the show, that's just how we treat white belts that we like, honestly. If you like this is how we would treat you if we didn't like you. You would do a hot take and then we would just look at you. And then we would move on. We wouldn't even respond. We wouldn't acknowledge what you said. Um, but yeah, as long as we acknowledge you, it's gonna be mean. Um, but you'll love it. You'll love it. It'll be cool. It'll toughen you up. That's all I have. I think that we're out, boys. Speaker 3: That was a good one. That was that was a good episode. Thanks for calling.