I brought a mic to open mat at ISAJJx (The I Suck at Jiu Jitsu Show Experience) and asked one simple question:“What’s your hottest jiu-jitsu take?”That’s it. That was the mistake.What started as a chill open mat at Headnod HQ turned into a full-blown mat-side debate about everything we pretend not to care about in jiu-jitsu… but absolutely care about. From disgusting mouthpiece etiquette to gym owner capitalism, from guard pullers to hoverers, from “flow rolling” lies to the eternal BJJ vs AJJ identity crisis, nothing was safe.We’ve got black belts calling people out, gym owners confessing what actually annoys them, competitors admitting the stress nobody talks about, and at least one take that was so hot it didn’t survive the edit.This episode is raw, live, and exactly what jiu-jitsu sounds like when you stop pretending it’s polite.If you train, you’ll recognize every personality in this video.If you don’t train, you’ll question why we do this to ourselves.Welcome to open mat with a microphone.Subscribe for more jiu-jitsu culture, comedy, and the stuff people only say when the round timer’s off.Jiu-Jitsu for Imbeciles, feat. Rob Biernacki(FREE): https://www.bjjmentalmodels.com/isucksportshygiene.com Promo Code “ISUCK”Datsusara 10% OFF with Promo Code “ISUCK”: https://www.dsgear.com/ The Competitor’s Journey: https://www.simplifyingjiujitsu.com/comp
Summary
The "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show Experience" open mat at Head Nod HQ featured a series of "hot takes" from BJJ practitioners, covering various aspects of the sport and its culture. A prominent discussion centered on gym hygiene, with participants humorously, yet pointedly, addressing the grossness of handling mouthpieces, the unsanitary nature of communal nail clippers, and the general need for better mat hygiene. The hosts and guests emphasized the importance of personal cleanliness in BJJ, even promoting products like "Full Guard" spray to combat common mat-borne issues like ringworm and staph, highlighting the often-overlooked realities of training in close quarters.
The conversation also delved into the multifaceted challenges of gym ownership and instruction. Junior Silva, a gym owner, shared his frustrations with individuals attempting to train for free or those who boast about their potential UFC careers, only to be humbled on the mats. The hosts also discussed the annoyance of "hoverers" who stalk the mats waiting for a roll, and the constant demands on instructors who teach daily but are perceived as "never rolling" by students who only attend specific classes. New gym owners highlighted the unexpected workload, from relentless promotion and intricate scheduling to late nights and the inability to truly "leave" the job, even when off the mats.
A significant portion of the "hot takes" revolved around BJJ culture, particularly the distinction between "Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu" (BJJ) and "American Jiu-Jitsu" (AJJ). Guests debated the value of tradition, such as bowing to pictures on the wall, versus a more pragmatic, less hierarchical approach. The consensus leaned towards respecting coaches on the mat while maintaining personal autonomy off it, criticizing the "bullshit" aspects of rigid BJJ traditions that dictate personal life. Another cultural hot take targeted practitioners who project a false bravado, often inspired by figures like Jocko Willink, without having genuinely earned such an attitude.
Finally, the discussion touched on BJJ competition and travel. One hot take suggested that jiu-jitsu competition has inadvertently "ruined" the enjoyment of BJJ travel and camps. The intense pressure of weight cutting, worrying about opponents, and the need to perform often overshadow the fun of visiting new gyms and learning without stress. This was contrasted with the more relaxed and enjoyable experience of attending camps purely for learning. The episode also poked fun at common tournament behaviors, such as competitors shadow boxing like MMA fighters or throwing fake strikes before a BJJ match, and the irony of BJJ practitioners mocking traditional martial arts "katas" while engaging in static drilling that resembles them.
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Speaker 1: I suck at jiu-jitsu. How do I suck less? Speaker 2: We are live at the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show Experience at an open mat at Head Nod HQ. That's pretty exciting. Sitting next down to next next down, next down to Kyle Watson. Speaker 1: How are you doing, Kyle? Speaker 2: I'm great. Honestly, that was that was fantastic. The first segment kicked off by the Steve McKinney and it was old man jiu-jitsu, but it was awesome because it was for young and old. Speaker 1: It was, it was. It was for the small, the weak, the frail, the not handsome, you know, Steve McKinney, as some would say. You know. Speaker 2: He's yeah, attached like more geriatric names like like like the Gerambolo. Speaker 1: The Gerambolo, that's good. That's good. Um, do you have any hot takes for us, Kyle? Speaker 2: You know, I I feel like I do, but I feel like mine are kind of boring. Some are kind of just recent, so I maybe think about it because I was annoyed by it. Uh, well, not necessarily annoyed, but just you things you notice that are weird. Like, for example, have you ever noticed how often people hold their mouthpiece in their hand and then they come up and shake your hand and they hand it to the other hand and then shake your hand with the one that was holding their mouthpiece? Speaker 1: Yeah, there's really it's just gross. There's no way around it because like they'll put it on their ear or something. Like that's better. You know, like, hey, you know this side of my head that I've been burying in the chest of other sweaty men for the last hour and a half. I'm going to put my mouthpiece on that. That's a good holder for my mouthpiece. Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like it's like, hey, there I wanted nothing more than to with my hand to touch everything that was inside your mouth. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: You know. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that's and that's a thing. But honestly, the way I look at it is if they're going to hold that mouthpiece with that hand again, they still got the worst end of the stick shaking hands with me, you know. I've got, you know, I've got much. Speaker 2: Who knows where they have been. Speaker 1: Who knows. Yeah, my hands are much dirtier. Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. That's gross. Another one I think is kind of nasty. I don't know, but everybody does. You guys might do this at your gym. But I have for the longest time people come up and say, hey, do you have a fingernail clipper? And we definitely want people to trim their toenails and their and their fingernails, of course, so they're not scratching people. But people always come up and ask if we have like a community one and I'm like, ooh. Speaker 1: That's pretty gross. But we do now because you would be amazed how many people use it. But I still think it's kind of gross. Cuz man, what if what if you had what if you had the blue liquid that they have when you're getting a haircut? You drop the comb and then. Speaker 2: The barber what's like our barber barber side barber side. Is that Yeah, something like that. And so, uh, yeah, what if you had just the blue liquid and it's just living in the blue liquid. Speaker 1: No, or we could do this. Someone told me not too long ago that our good friend Junior Silva, they witnessed him selling someone needed trimmers and there weren't any. So I someone witnessed him selling someone a pair for five bucks. So I thought, hey, that's what I'm going to start doing. I'm going to do some Watson branded trimmers to carry in the pro shop. Speaker 2: That makes sense. Speaker 1: And that's the thing is like the pro shop at a jiu-jitsu school. It's there's a science to it and people don't realize that. Like, for instance, tomorrow, we're going to all be training really hard. It's going to be hot. I'm going to have the heaters on even though they won't be necessary. It's going to be really, really hot. There's going to be a point in the day I'm going to go, hey, guys, we're going to take a break. I'm going to walk over to the fridge. I'm going to open it. I'm going to grab an element and I'm going to crack it. When I crack it, the Allen Bros have like the cracking sound play through the speakers. Everyone hears it. And then like I I drink, I pour it all over myself. You know, like I'm like really and then I, you know, I I throw my mouthpiece behind my ear and I'm just like, you know, like trying to, you know, hydrate, but I'm also slinging element too. And I'm selling it for like $12 a can. And so the markup is just insane. Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty smart idea. And but you should for sure after you slam that, you should smash it on your head. The can. Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be that would be pretty cool. I'm not cool enough to do that. You know who would give a very valuable opinion for this conversation? Speaker 2: Who's that? Speaker 1: Where's Junior Silva? Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: Junior, can he can he hear me? Can he hear me, Brian? Speaker 2: He should be able to. Speaker 1: Junior Silva. Do you speak English, bro? Come over here. Speaker 2: Fala Portugues. Speaker 1: Hey, sit sit right between your pals, Josh and Kyle. Speaker 2: Come on down. Come on down. We were just talking about you. Speaker 1: What's taking you so long? Speaker 2: We were just talking about your selling ability. I bet Junior could literally sell you some stuff that you already own. Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, dude. One time. Speaker 2: You're sitting on my cord. You're sitting on my cord. Hold on a second. Speaker 1: One time I forgot my my ghee, um, and was at Revive and Junior sold me a ghee and I realized it was the ghee that I forgot at Revive. You know, he sold me a head nod ghee at Revive, bro. Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me at all. Do you know how those work? Speaker 1: Um, here, do like that. Yeah, see that. And then that one too. There you go. There you go, big dog, you're back. Speaker 2: Damn. Speaker 1: You're back. What's up, guys? Speaker 2: How are you doing, Junior? Speaker 1: Good, good. Were you just doing some rounds? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Beating people down? Speaker 2: Roll, roll. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: I beat him up good. Speaker 1: No, you weren't beating down Ron Ron? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Ron Ron seems to think that you weren't beating him down. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I beat him bad. Speaker 1: Dang, bro. That's brutal. Walk into his country and beat him down. We were just through the border. Speaker 2: We were essentially just discussing like, would you rather um, taste someone's hand or stick your finger in someone else's mouth? I think it was taste somebody's hand or lick their ear was what we were doing. Speaker 1: No, we're talking about like how people shake your hand after having their mouthpiece in their hand. So like who gets the worst end of it after they put it back in their mouth. Speaker 2: I'd rather have my fingers in your mouth. Speaker 1: Really? Yeah, that's like Junior's favorite thing to do when he was rolling with you is like you ever do you ever you remember the wrestler Mankind? He had the mandible claw and he would like eventually turned into Mr. Sako, but he would like, you know, in your mouth. That's Junior's favorite move. Yeah. Speaker 2: Wow. Speaker 1: That was he's always tells me this is what they do in Brazil. You know. Speaker 2: Yeah. That's the illegal way to do things. Speaker 1: Do you have any hot takes about jiu-jitsu, Junior? I know you're angry about things. What do you got? What makes you mad? What Lawrence does on the mat, you know, that makes you mad. What freaking Chance does on the mat makes you mad. Speaker 2: Everything Chance and Lawrence do makes me mad. Speaker 1: Well, give me some specifics. Give me a hot take. Something that needs eliminated in jiu-jitsu. You're always mad about something. You're always like, these white boys, they talk too long on their instructionals. Speaker 2: I can't stand that. I can't stand that. Speaker 1: What's something as a gym owner or an instructor maybe that annoys you? Speaker 2: A gym owner, an instructor. The main thing that annoys everybody when people try to train for free. Speaker 1: Oh, bro. Bro. Speaker 2: That's true. Speaker 1: You I'll tell you this. You go to Revive Jiu-Jitsu, you can't breathe air for free, brother. You ain't there is no way. They're taxing that, you know. Speaker 2: That's the American part of my jiu-jitsu. Speaker 1: That's the that's the AJ part of Revive. Speaker 2: You got it. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: I learned from Kyle Watson, you know. Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, on the mat, it's Brazilian jiu-jitsu. But off the mat, it's capitalism, you know. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: I like that, Junior. I like that. Speaker 2: You got to pay. Speaker 1: What what else? What other things? So, okay, the worst thing that somebody could do, try to get in for free. What do you tell somebody if they're getting in for free? They're trying to sneak in on you. Speaker 2: I send them to Head Nod on Sunday. Speaker 1: What do you tell people when they come in and they basically they're trying to tell you they're the next big thing. Like they want to maybe in the UFC or whatever. And basically like they should be able to train for free just because of like what they're going to bring to the table. They're like you're almost sponsoring their ride to the UFC. What do you tell them? Speaker 2: I it's been a while since I got one of those. I know I had a guy come in and try to do that a couple weeks ago. And I told him, okay, let's do a class. He had he had experience. He was a wrestler. Let's see how well you do. If you do well, you don't have to pay. So, I made him do like two rounds of Mac Green. Jeff was there. Everybody beat the life out of him. Speaker 1: But let's be honest, even if he did well, you were still going to say he didn't do well. Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I know. He was still going to do well. Speaker 1: The deck was stacked against him. Speaker 2: And I told him, bro, you should pay. You have a lot to learn. Speaker 1: Oh, a lot. Speaker 2: Yeah, you should pay more and never came back. Speaker 1: Man, that's yeah, I had a guy one time we were doing a six-week program and he said, uh, he sent me a message and he said, hey, this six-week program needs me. He said, I will be the He's like, I'll be the greatest example for people and they'll know what to strive for in the six-week program. And I was like, yeah, bro, just send me two fitty and you're in. You know, like let's let's get the show on the road. Prove it, you know. Um, and yeah, he wasn't in. He didn't have the finances to to handle it. It was odd. Speaker 2: Yikes. Speaker 1: Yeah. What else you got for us, Kyle? I know you got busy, you got a big dinner plans you got to get going to. So. Speaker 2: Well, I got a couple well, I don't know. They're ones that most people complain about. I hate the hovers. You know what I'm talking about the hovers where they like you can see them like in the corner of your eye, they're staring at you. Junior deals with this all the time. Where they're staring at you just waiting to roll. They're just hanging out for a long time. And they just hover and they start getting closer and closer and they're just waiting for you to make eye contact. But here's what I like about Junior is like, I'm mad about it, but I also told them Junior will like literally look him in the eye and tell him to fuck off. Speaker 1: No. No, you do not get to do that. Josh, come get this guy right now. Come take care of this guy for me. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, that's yeah, I that's one of the more annoying things, but I do love the trick of like the the Avengers where he's like, that's my secret cap. I'm always tired, right? And so the guy expects like, oh man, I finally have Josh now. You know, you've seen it many times, Junior. Josh is tired. He's throwing up in the on the side. He just just eats too much food, bro. He's just bad. It's not it has nothing to do with anything that's happening here. He'd be doing that if we just, you know, it was noon and on a Friday and he was just hanging out at his house. And so, yeah, I'm like then they come, they come fight me. I get one terrible sweep really quick and then it's on. The melt is on, bro. Speaker 2: I love it. Josh only teaches twice a week. Speaker 1: No, he teaches three times a week, bro. Speaker 2: If you find him on the gym, it's probably like you're going to roll, but me and you, Kyle, we teach every day. So if I go teaching in the morning, then I roll. I come at night and the guy that only comes on Monday, he believes that the whole gym only opens on Monday. He's like, you want to roll? He's like, no, man, I'm not rolling today. He's like, every time I come here, you're not rolling. I'm like, bro, you want to come on Mondays. There is a classes every day and I roll the other days, you know, and I try to roll the people I care about and I want to help them get. Speaker 1: And I and I don't care about you. Speaker 2: So too. Speaker 1: I didn't need I didn't feel the need to throw me under the bus on that, you know, like I feel like, you know, for a guy that teaches class every day, you're in Brazil an awful lot. You know, you're in Brazil an awful lot to be teaching every single class every single day. Speaker 2: Have you ever seen you ever seen that video the Ninja Cat where it's like the camera goes away and then comes back and then the cat's closer and then it goes back and then every time it comes out, the cat is closer. That's how hovers are. It's like you look over and then they're like three people closer. And then you look back and you look back at them, they're right next to you and they're just standing there like. Speaker 1: You do a round with a white belt and they disappear. Yeah. They're like, wait, no, no, no, never mind, never mind. No, no. I think I'm just drilling today. Speaker 2: He's not tired enough. Speaker 1: Yeah. They only need that one chance that one time they they catch you with the ankle lock or something. They can break forever. Speaker 2: I like I like to chase those guys down though. You know, like when you're not tired. Speaker 1: Because you know they do it and so you just like run after them. Speaker 2: You like you pre-hover them. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And then the other fun thing is like you tell like three or four really tough people to do the same thing the whole day. And so like cuz they're used to getting one round and then chilling for four. And so now they're doing tough round after tough round or they're having to sit out and all four guys are walking up being like, hey, did you are you not rolling this round? Oh, okay. Okay. So sounds good. Speaker 2: That's like a reverse hot take. I love that doing that is like you green lighting somebody like going up and just being like telling like, you know, four your like best guys, hey, see that guy over there. It's kind of douchey. Came in real arrogant. Go get him. Speaker 1: That happened to me one time. Speaker 2: When I moved to Missouri. Speaker 1: I went to Kyle Watson. Speaker 2: My stop it. Speaker 1: Kyle, Trevor, Josh McKinney. Speaker 2: I told him I have back pain. They beat the life out of me. Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. This is what happened. I got a text from my coach who I love and care about and he said, Invaders from the south are coming into class today. And I said, I said, Florida? And he said, uh, more south. And I said, yes, sir. Yes, sir. And so, yeah, me and Trevor both did shots of pre-workout and we brought the heat to protect our country, to protect Watson Martial Arts, St. Louis, Missouri, and our homeland, America. Speaker 2: That was kind of you. That was one of the first times to really stake in the flag for American jiu-jitsu, you know. Speaker 1: It really was. It really was. And, um, yeah, and I honestly, I don't regret it. I don't regret it one bit. I don't regret it one bit. Speaker 2: I'm never I'm never forgot. Speaker 1: Yeah. Can't forget. Who else do we have that needs a hot take? Cuz I know Kyle Watson's got to get going. Speaker 2: He should be in here. Speaker 1: Yeah. Kyle Watson, you want to switch out, Dan? Get going. And we'll see you tomorrow, Kyle. Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Thank you, guys. This has been a really awesome day. Speaker 1: Thanks for putting this together. We love it. Thanks for being here. Can't wait to see what you're going to teach tomorrow, Kyle. Speaker 2: Good stuff. Come on in. Speaker 1: Friend of the show, Dan Shuhart. Dan's always got a hot take for us. Dan's always got something to say. Perfect. That's what. Speaker 2: Yes, perfect. That's what. Speaker 1: How are you doing, Dan? Speaker 2: I'm good. How are you doing? Speaker 1: Doing good. Doing good. Speaker 2: So, let's see, hot take. Speaker 1: I got a question for you first. Speaker 2: All right, talk to me. Speaker 1: Why would you would you quit jiu-jitsu if your boy Crutchfield beat you up? Speaker 2: He's been trying for years. Speaker 1: 100%. I'd be done. That'd be my last night of jiu-jitsu. Speaker 2: Like if he just passed your guard or like if he submits you from mount with pressure. Speaker 1: I'm going home and never coming back either situation. If either situation. Speaker 2: Okay. Speaker 1: I'm always watching because if Crutchfield catch something, I'm going to stop it. Speaker 2: He ain't going to. You're going to just unplug the timer. Stop. Don't break it. The best part about Crutch, though, when you are beating his ass, I've never heard someone make as many noises as that motherfucker. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. He's dying. He's just dying. He's yeah, his ancestors are definitely screaming. Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So, let's see a hot take. So, I don't know if this is a jiu-jitsu hot take, but a hot take in general about dudes that do jiu-jitsu that I see. I see these guys who wish they were something. Wish they did fight in a war. Wish they did do things like that. And so they project this attitude that they did do something and the motherfucker didn't do shit. And I try and give them grace, but then I also think, motherfucker, you had 20 years to be in that war. You didn't it just ain't some war you missed overnight. If you wanted to be that motherfucker, you should have went and been that motherfucker. So, I would say that's that's my hot take. Speaker 1: That's good. That's you, Junior. That's you he's calling out, brother. Speaker 2: The Brazilian military don't fight anyone. So, even if I wanted. Speaker 1: Do you guys have a military? Speaker 2: I don't think so. Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't even I've never even heard of it. Speaker 2: I don't I don't think uh, no. Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you guys have a soccer team, but like. Speaker 2: We have a really good soccer team, you know. Speaker 1: That's what you'll beat us with. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 2: Soccer is the new type of war. Uh, but yeah, that's what I would say. I see too many guys out here acting like trying they listen to Jaco Willnick and they listen to this bullshit and try and act like they're somebody they're not and it it's that's a hot take. Speaker 1: Is it easy for you to see when somebody does that? Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's so the big thing for me, and I won't go on a whole uh uh tangent about it. But, you know, I say it all the time. My favorite type of human is that kind, genuine person that's a bad motherfucker when they need to be or the other way I'd put it, they'll slit a motherfucker's throat when they need to. But go right back to being that kind, genuine human. And these dudes, they're so they're they're trying they're so trying to hide who they really are that they overly project this false bravado and shit. And they miss the point of what it's what it what being a person's all about. And they get so obsessed with that. So, yeah, no, they're very easy to spot out. It's hard. Speaker 1: It's a good hot take. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: That's a good hot take. Speaker 2: I hope it's not talking about me cuz I watched Rambo last week. I swore my gun. Speaker 1: Well, you look like. Speaker 2: That was sure and walking in the neighborhood. Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like Rambo with your shirt off. You know, when your shirt's off. Speaker 2: I do. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: People think we're related. Speaker 1: Definitely. I can see that, man. Definitely. Speaker 2: You were in number two. You were the stunt double, right? Speaker 1: Yes. That's it, right? Yeah. They had to pick Junior because uh Sylvester Stallone also has baby hands. You know. Speaker 2: That's what it is. That was the fit. That was the fit in that one. Speaker 1: Joshua was there too. Speaker 2: Yeah. He was fighting for the other side. Speaker 1: Oh man, that's too much. Speaker 2: I mean. Speaker 1: What else you got for me, Dan? Anything else? Anything else? Speaker 2: I got to ask Dan another question. Speaker 1: Let me hear it. All right. Speaker 2: Are you a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy or American jiu-jitsu? Cuz you love America. Okay. And you love Brazilian barbecue, so. Speaker 1: And put the flag. Speaker 2: So, do you want me to give my honest answer about this? Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we're here for, bro. Speaker 2: All right. So, in my opinion, I'm a very So, I'm a very I love tradition. I don't like the balance of some motherfucker on the wall. I'm not that far into tradition. But I do like tradition. And so for me personally, I'm a Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy. Speaker 1: Why did his my picture? Speaker 2: But how do you feel about? Speaker 1: Fuck that. I don't give a fuck. Speaker 2: If I die. If I die. I'll post a picture of you on Facebook, but I ain't going to bow to no motherfucker opinion. Speaker 1: Yeah, listen. But that's but that's but that's BJJ, brother. That's the that's the aren't you supposed to in that isn't that the job? Speaker 2: That's not my BJJ. Look. Speaker 1: Isn't that the job? Listen, Junior's an AJJ guy. He just hasn't told he's a broken it to you guys yet. Junior's the most AJJ Brazilian person I've ever met. Speaker 2: I'm a dude. I just want to fucking do jiu-jitsu. Speaker 1: Listen. Speaker 2: And I I like you. I like the way you roll. Speaker 1: Just like the BJJ guys, you know, just like the American jiu-jitsu. It's the Brazilians that are always like, no, you got to bow first. You got to, you know. Speaker 2: See, I don't I can't do that stuff. Speaker 1: You got. Speaker 2: That that's so again, to your point, I get that that's a lot of the Brazilian jiu-jitsu thing. Because I also am a grown ass fucking man. And I'm not going to have some other grown ass man tell me where I can train, who I can hang out with. That I don't fucking play that game, man. I I say it all the time. Especially with Junior. Me and Junior have become really good friends. On the mat, he's my coach and I will respect him as much. When we're off the mat, he's my motherfucking homie, man. And and that's I think again, now I'm going off on another tangent. But I think that's a problem that a lot of guys have in in those types of situations because in the world I come from, call people by my boss, I call him by his first name. Our teams are run by our first name. But when it comes down to the real shit, and bullets start flying, I'm respecting him and I'm listening to what he has to say. And I carry that over to this. I always show. I don't care how good of friends we we become. I'm always going to show him respect. But at the same time, I'm never going to let let another fucking grown ass man tell me what I can and can't do in my normal life. But he would never do that shit. Speaker 1: No, I don't I don't care what you're doing. That's how Junior rolls. That's that, you know, I don't want to start calling out gyms, but that's that fuck that bullshit. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: That BJJ stuff. That's what he was trying to sell me, bro. He keeps saying he keeps saying like, man, he keeps saying like, I love BJJ and then he'll talk really bad about it for a while. And then he'll be like, then he'll be like, but like, these are really good things and then he'll list AJJ talking points and he'll be like, and that's what I love about BJJ. And like, I guess, I guess if that's what we're doing, you know, today, I suppose. Speaker 2: I just want to again, that's not what we do at at Revive, man. We don't have all that stupid shit. Speaker 1: That's not what I heard. I heard that Junior's making you guys bow. Speaker 2: He does. He actually has a picture of himself up on the wall. Speaker 1: Do it. The girl. Speaker 2: That we bow to. Speaker 1: Drew a picture of me. It was perfect. What do you want me to do with the picture? Okay, that was amazing. That was completely different. That's just logical. That's just logical, right? Yeah. Speaker 2: You have to do what you got to do. Speaker 1: Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Brazilian jiu-jitsu forever, man. Long live BJJ. Yeah, but but I I love AJJ too. That's why I'm here. Speaker 2: Listen. Speaker 1: Listen, I'm telling Nick Sanders that you said that you're not an AJJ guy. And we'll see we'll see what Nick has to say tomorrow. We'll see what coach Nick has to say about this tomorrow. Speaker 2: He don't know Nick. I know I didn't know he was going to be here. Yeah. Come on. Speaker 1: All right, dudes. Anything else to say? Speaker 2: No, anything, Dan? Speaker 1: No, thank you so much. This is awesome, man. I'm glad you put this together, man. It's really incredible. Yeah, thank you guys for coming. Speaker 2: Super proud of you, Josh. Speaker 1: Yeah, love having you guys. We'll party tomorrow. Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow. I'll pass your guard. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. There better be some good seminars if you're going to pass my guard, bro. Speaker 2: We've been drilling. Speaker 1: We've been drilling. I want to watch you beat up Jeff. Speaker 2: That's what needs to happen. Speaker 1: That's We need we need more hot takes, people. What do who do we got, Allen Bros? Speaker 3: Yo, so I got a new ghee. It's really, really sick. Datsusara just sent me their fun ghee number two and um has a color stitching that I've never really seen before. It just the the ghee looks really cool. The the obviously whatever artist they had design it took special care on this and it's just such a unique design. I have worn it twice now and I have probably gotten 20 different comments on the ghee. Everybody's like, hey, why is this shiny? Can I touch this? Can I put on your ghee top? It's can I choke you with this a little bit? And so, um it's definitely been the talk of the town. Only problem I had is I trained in it the other day, jump in the car. It's like one of the last nice days of the year out. And so I got the windows down. Jump in the car, still ghee on, still sweaty. I got leather seats, no big deal. Um and I'm going to drive home. And on my way home, I end up having to roll up the windows because women were literally just trying to jump into the car because they were so impressed by this Datsusara ghee. And so, if that interests you, if um being, you know, the coolest looking person on the mat interests you, being in one of the most comfortable ghee that there is interests you, um be sure to check out Datsusara. Um be sure to check out DSgear.com and use promo code I suck at checkout and you'll get 10% off of your ghee, your backpack, whatever you want from them. But be sure to check them out. Speaker 1: All right. Down with Robert and Taylor. How are you guys doing? Speaker 4: Good. Speaker 1: What's up? How's the day been so far? Speaker 4: Long. Speaker 1: Long. I know you started driving from Sioux City, Iowa. Yep, eight hours. Eight hours. Speaker 4: What time you start driving this morning? Speaker 1: Uh, 8:00. Yeah. We got here just in time right before it started. Man. Speaker 4: 5:00 in the morning I was driving to the job site. Speaker 1: Have you had any have you be honest, be honest with us. At any point have you been like, man, maybe this was a mistake. You know, hour seven. Were you like, man, I don't even know this Josh guy. This could have been this could have been a big mistake, right? Speaker 4: When I was passing a semi going 80 miles an hour in like two inches of snow that was really slushy. I was like, maybe it's not worth it. Maybe I should slow down. Speaker 1: Maybe it's not worth it. Maybe I should slow down. Maybe I can just be late. That's okay. Didn't you just have a newborn recently? Speaker 4: Yep, four weeks ago. Four weeks ago. Little boy. Speaker 1: So the devil, there wasn't a time there where you were like, maybe this was a mistake. Speaker 4: The night before my wife told me she thinks it's a mistake. Speaker 1: I uh, yeah, I uh my wife would have said the same thing and honestly, if my wife listens to this episode, she'll agree. You know, she's on your wife's side. Uh, do you guys got any hot takes for me? Anything hot? Speaker 4: I'm pondering. Speaker 1: No, nothing. Speaker 4: Nothing's coming to mind right now. Speaker 1: Nothing. I got one for you. Speaker 4: What do you got? Speaker 1: So, the number one reason that jiu-jitsu guys make fun of traditional martial arts like Taekwondo is cuz they do katas, right? And then they'll come to class and they'll drill static for 45 minutes and do a kata. Speaker 4: This is solid. Speaker 1: They do they do do that. This is true. Are you sure though that it's katas? Are we sure it's not? Speaker 4: It's a dance. It's all you're doing. Speaker 1: You know, it is I mean, it is a dance. I agree that, you know, it does. Speaker 4: But most katas are by themselves. Speaker 1: You go you show up, you know, you're drilling you're drilling closed guard arm bars back and forth just throwing your legs willy-nilly. It feels pretty kata. I get that. Speaker 4: But at least there's another person involved. Speaker 1: One time, this is on topic but off topic. One time, first jiu-jitsu tournament I ever did. First match, no, second match that I ever had. The kid was warming up with a kata before the match. And his jiu-jitsu was terrible. He was terrible. He did not know what he was doing. His coach actually got choked unconscious like four different times at the tournament. He had four matches and he went to sleep in all four matches that he had. And but he warmed up with a kata. So it didn't help him. The kata didn't help him. Speaker 4: I wouldn't guess. Speaker 1: I got one that's something along those lines. Speaker 4: What do you got? Speaker 1: The guys who go to jiu-jitsu tournaments and they're sitting there shadow boxing like they're about to get into MMA fight and then they go out there and get completely destroyed. Speaker 4: Or you'll see guys throw some faint knees and some faint leg kicks in jiu-jitsu matches cuz they're just so fired up. They're just so ready to go. And uh yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that many times. Many times. Any other hot takes you guys got for me? Speaker 4: None that I can think of. Speaker 1: No, nothing. All right, so I got one. So, um I think that jiu-jitsu competition has ruined jiu-jitsu travel. Speaker 4: I think so. Speaker 1: I think that a lot I thought somebody was agreeing with me. I'm like, oh cool. Um so I just think that when you do something like this, you have a you you travel, you drive, you come out. There is never going to be any stress points in the weekend where you're like, should I eat this right now? Should I am I can I take this sip of water? Am I should I warm up right now? Maybe I shouldn't. Is my bracket going? It's literally, but you still get the same experience of getting to be away, getting to be around your homies, getting to be around jiu-jitsu people. And you still get to have this fun experience, but Speaker 4: New mats. Speaker 1: It's without yeah, different gyms and stuff like that. New mats, different gyms, but it's it's without the pressure of having to perform. And to me, that is like when people come to these things that are competitors especially, you will one, you don't see overlap. You see typically people that don't compete go to camps and then people that compete just spend money on competition. And when you see them make that overlap. It's always like the first camps that I've went went to like just a couple years ago. I was like, man, why am I having so much fun at this? Like, oh, it's cuz I'm not stressed. It's cuz I'm not worried about this guy's in my division. I've got to, you know, I've got to do this. I'm sick. I'm this. It's like nothing mattered. I was just showing up to learn jiu-jitsu and I think that people would understand that that could be a fun part of jiu-jitsu a lot more if it wasn't for we spend all our money on competition every year. Speaker 4: Yeah, I think and I think for me, like as I've the past couple years, I've took a a little bit more of a backseat, you know, more of the coaching role, not competing as frequently. So I've been able to go on these trips if I wasn't competing. And I think also part of the stress was just I feel like and maybe other people have the same thing. No matter what if you're on weight or whatever and you're like, yeah, my weight's good. And whatever and you're like, yeah, my weight's good. Until you actually go weigh in, you still kind of think about the scale a little bit. Like you said, like the the food and stuff and you'd be like, oh man, I'm I'm down five pounds. I'm fine. But it's like, have you weighed in yet? You know, like is this bite of chicken five pounds? I'm not sure. You know what I mean? It's like you're not sitting there at the table weighing your food and you so it's like, dude, you're not going to do that. And so I think for me it's like until you actually get on the scale like you get those type of situations to where you kind of almost get that not enjoyment without having to worry about different things out throughout the weekend until you get done competing. And so, so question for both of you guys. So both of you guys, Taylor, you just bought a jiu-jitsu school, correct? Speaker 1: Correct. Speaker 4: When was that? Speaker 1: Uh, the start of this year. Speaker 4: Start of this year. Okay. So both of you guys very new jiu-jitsu school owners. Give me it doesn't have to be a hot take. It can just be a statement. Something that people do not expect about opening a gym. They think that it is going to be this, but you know now from having done it that maybe that is not true. Speaker 1: More work. Speaker 4: It's going to be more work than you. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure. Speaker 4: Meaning what? Give me some examples of work that you guys have to do that was surprising. Speaker 1: Surprisingly, I I promoting your gym. Speaker 4: Yes. Speaker 1: I think and I've always been like, yeah, let me let me promote my program and stuff and I've always been a big advocate of that. Just even promoting, you know, Aries Bros Jiu-Jitsu, you know, obviously it has my name on it, you know, it's my brand and but then even then doing it on a more business and just constantly doing it or kind of finding new ways to to promote and it's exhausting, especially I guess I could say it as a person who's not full-time in the gym as well. It's very difficult and so trying to do that on another level and still try to get success. It's like it's a non-stop. Speaker 1: And then still bring good jiu-jitsu. Speaker 4: And then also trying to bring a lot of energy and getting people excited, you know, when you're super fatigued, you know, I think that's very difficult because at the end of the day, you know, it's like, all right, you did all that, you know, and let's say everybody has, you know, family jobs and things like that. And then you got the evening jiu-jitsu class and you got to sit there and and perform and teach and get everybody involved and, you know, make sure your students get in tuned with what you're teaching and it's like, I think that just it's takes a toll sometimes and I think it was a little bit more than what I expected. And so. Speaker 1: Similar to what you just said as far as like the extra workload. I would uh say with like scheduling, like what classes are supposed to be at exactly what time and you add a new class and then nobody shows up for three weeks. You're like, well, that was a stupid idea. But then maybe the next time like 30 people are there. So it's scheduling and then um just the late nights, you know, just you're like, oh yeah, you just leave, you clean up, you walk out. But then it's like you go home and you're still working on that same thing, you know what I mean? Speaker 1: You're still messaging somebody. You're you're the relationship's not working. They're, you know, you're still doing something. It is something that you don't get to leave in a good way and a bad way, right? It's like there is something about for me coming in, you know, where at my gym because something about coming in here that is just always happy for me. There's just something that's always cool is like, man, I started this in a in an apartment 10 years ago and now we have a bigger space. Now we have more people and there's something that I always enjoy about that, but I still can't pretend it's not a job, you know, is not it is still work. It is still like there are parts of it that I'm like, I don't want to deal with this, but this is essential for growth. This is essential for what we need to do. Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's I think that's the same thing. So like whenever I get home and I'm like, dude, all right, I'm going to turn my phone off. I got to get some isolate time. But then I'll think of something or like, oh, we got this coming up. So then I'm always then I get back on the phone. You know, I'm messaging my brother. I'm messaging, you know, the other coaches or whatever and it's like, hey, this is what we're doing, blah, blah, blah. And I think it's just it's honestly more fun whenever I come over here because I come in here, I can relax. It's not even my gym. I go into my gym. I'm like, oh wait, it it brings that that's got to be done. Oh, we got this and it's it's kind of silly, you know, just everything always revolving around trying to think of new things or maybe like, you know, add a new additions to gym or, you know, tune something up and just so when I'm here, I'm like, I don't have to think about that with my buddies. I don't have to think about that. But when I'm at my own gym, I'm always thinking like, I got to be a perfectionist. I always got to like take that next step. So a lot of times I'm in the gym and I have fun in my gym, but, you know, I'm always on that what what else can be done, you know. Speaker 1: And it's like if you go to open mat at your gym, you're going to get questions. You know what I mean? Like you're going to get people that that are asking and the and, you know, like cuz it's like, oh, well, it's your gym. It's like the scene in The Hangover where the kid goes to ask Bradley Cooper the question right after school. And he's like, you don't know me. You don't exist right now. And like that's the, you know, that's how you feel. But you can't you can't say that to people, you know, that pay you monthly, you know. If you want them to continue to pay you monthly, you can't. If you want the overhead paid, okay, yeah, I think I'm going to answer. And so, uh, yeah, it's nice to sometimes for me to go to Revive and just disrespect all their students. Like, I don't care if you quit. I don't I don't work here. You know, like this isn't this isn't where I work. Uh, any thoughts, anything you guys want to say to finish? Speaker 4: Uh, no. Speaker 1: All right, give me a shout out to both of your schools to finish then. Speaker 4: Aries Bros Jiu-Jitsu, Fairview Heights, Illinois. Yeah. Don't come try us out or nothing. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, come try us out. No tag, no tag line. Speaker 4: Everybody's welcome. Speaker 1: Everybody's welcome. Even me. Speaker 4: Even you. Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Speaker 4: Even you. Yep, we're up in uh Sioux City, Iowa, Jiu-Jitsu Unlimited. Um come in if you can tap me out, you can have my gym. Speaker 1: Ooh. Nice. That's good. That's nice. I like that. That's a good one. That's a that's a much better. Speaker 4: That is really good. Speaker 1: I like that. That's good. That's good. All right, who do we got next? Rob, who do we got with you? Speaker 5: The jiu-jitsu mats are really gross. If you really think about it. I try to not think about it. I've actually run into this problem of writing commercials for my friends at Sports Hygiene. It's so hard to write commercials because if I just really am honest with people and we all just sat for a second and we think about how gross the jiu-jitsu mats are. Just really we marinate on that thought in the same way that we marinate on all of the body fluids of our friends. And then you hear about a product from Sports Hygiene. You hear about their product full guard. And you hear about this idea of hypochlorous acid and how it can literally kill ringworm, it can kill staff and it is good for your skin biome. And this idea that there is a spray that you could literally spray on in between rounds to protect your body from the grossness of the jiu-jitsu mats is unbelievable. And it just so happens that they love the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show and want to give a promo code to you guys and that is promo code I suck. And so at checkout when you are getting your case of full guard to just douse your body in because of how gross the mats are. Be sure to use promo code I suck at checkout. Let's get back to the episode. Speaker 1: Are we betting on it? Speaker 6: We also said. Speaker 1: Okay, I'll honestly, I absolutely love Lawrence, but I'll bet $1 billion that that without leg locks, Jeff is still he is still tapping your boy. Your boy's dying. Speaker 6: It's not the right camera. Speaker 1: Hey, they're trying to say that you can't tap Lawrence. 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