#358 Victor Hugo: Big Man Flow | The Secret to Being Unbreakable

Speaker 1: I suck at jiu-jitsu. Speaker 2: Look for up dog down dog to bring you this important message. Speaker 1: I suck less. Speaker 2: All right, everybody who's wanting to hear this Victor Hugo uh uh interview, we are about to get rolling on it. And uh yeah, it's the first time that we've ever done something like this. So, we'll see how it goes. Let's go. Thank you so much for being here. I mean, you have this cool seminar you're going to do, but thank you so much for just chatting with us about jiu-jitsu. Speaker 2: Yeah, no. Uh thanks for the opportunity. This will be fun. Uh first time, I think yeah, my first time doing like a tournament, but also the seminar while a tournament's happening. I I'm pretty sure that's my first time too, so I'm excited. Speaker 1: I I am excited too. I just what do you think the chances are that you show something, somebody lands into the position right after and they're mentally like, "Ooh, maybe I should go for the move that I just learned." Speaker 2: Literally what I just thought, you know, like I was like, maybe maybe I can teach them something that they'll get they'll be able to use right away. Speaker 1: Maybe they get a free t-shirt if they can hit it. Speaker 2: Maybe I'll show them knee bars and they'll do it as a white belt and just all of them get DQ. Speaker 1: Guys, I I looked at I looked at the rules. Don't worry. You can knee bar anybody in any division here. You show it to the kids tomorrow. Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like rolling to knee bars. That'll be awesome. Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good knee bars and heel hooks at noon today. Um in the ghee. Speaker 2: Yep. I think that's one way to do it for them not to bring you back anymore, right? Speaker 1: That's a good call. I don't know. I listen, the Midwest is a different place. People will I went to a do you know the the fighter Miguel Torres? Speaker 2: I think I've heard of him. Speaker 1: So it would have been he would have been um huge in the WEC. He was like one of the best 135ers ever, but it was before that division was really established. Um but I went to a ghee seminar of his and he started teaching outside heel hooks. And somebody said, "Miguel, you can't do this in the ghee." He said, "I can do this in the ghee." "You can't do this in the ghee." He goes, "I don't care." And we go, "Okay, I guess that's the rules." Speaker 2: Nice. Free rules, free for all. Speaker 1: I love it. So, Victor, with you, getting prepared uh for an interview with you was actually a lot harder than I expected. And for me, usually there's one huge thing that you're like, well, obviously this is what I would talk to this person about. But for you, I would argue in the jiu-jitsu space right now, you are the most well-rounded person in a sense of obviously ghee and no-gi. But on top of that, you're not just a competitor, you're a coach, you're a school owner, you're a business owner. And there are so many different places that we could say, oh, let's kind of focus in on this one thing that you do. But also for me, what I thought would be interesting is um kind of looking at everything that you do and kind of looking at your approach to those things and um kind of what your approach to life is too. And so I wanted to start with a simple question that I don't know the answer to, where did the term Big Man Flow come from? Speaker 2: Honestly, it started just like playing around. Shanji is the one that came up with the name. He's really good at coming up with names for things, you know? It's actually too good because he starts naming things and then he changes the name and then he doesn't let us know, so then we always behind with the names. But yeah, it just it just came naturally. Uh I I liked it. And I just felt like using my name itself for my brand wouldn't be the best thing. I don't like to make things about myself that much. I'm a I like to be more about a team, about a thing, so I was like, Big Man Flow is a good way to go to kind of like have my identity, you know? 'Cause I do feel like I do feel different things when it comes to all the other big guys. So what's the one way that I can name all those things? So that's how it came up together. The idea of naming it that, right? Like 'cause he would joke around, call me Big Man Flow. Big Man Flow is like, might as well use that. And I've been using it for a while. And the coolest thing is like, you use it, you know, I use it on the internet, I use it to, you know, joke around, I make some merch. And then I went to Korea and then people are saying it. I was like, oh, it's catchy, you know? Like people are really catching it. So yeah, like that's how it came along. And I guess if you say it enough times, people will start, you know, saying it too. Speaker 1: Yeah, and it also though from the outside perspective, watching you compete, it obviously is how you train. It's obviously how you roll jiu-jitsu, right? And so with that, would you say that Big Man Flow is how you approach life in general? Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Like flow is a big part of my life, you know, like I like things to be flowing good. Like I don't like I don't like to feel stuck somewhere, you know, like if something is not, you know, flowing the way I like, I like to address it right away. But the way of training is also important because being a big guy, a lot of times in the jiu-jitsu room, that's going to be scary enough for someone to roll with you. So if I'm already like scary looking and I roll with somebody smaller and I smash them, like it's going to be really hard to find training partners. So I really like to break people in a way where like I call them to a round, the thing is going to be one thing and then they're like, oh, that was so much fun. Thanks for letting me work. But I was like, oh, like I was working too, you know, like it doesn't have to be me about me like beating you up. So I think yeah, like that that plays along like with the different things in my life for sure. Speaker 1: What do you consider, like let's say in the jiu-jitsu space, um and then maybe we'll look at it broader, but what do you consider flow? What is flow to you? Speaker 2: Flow to me has a lot to do with like being open-minded, you know, like make sure you're always looking for something like progression. I think that's a lot to do with progression. Like yeah, progression and open-mindedness. Like when it comes to the jiu-jitsu room, like if I only stick to one thing, am I really progressing, you know, or am I just like locking myself at the one thing, just trying to get better at the one thing? Which goes along with like being well-rounded, I think, because if you look even like a the smallest example would be like, if you look at my BJJ heroes, I have submissions from everywhere. It's kind of interesting. I think somebody interviewed me before and he said that. I didn't even realize, but if I look that, the list is really long. I probably only hit the same submission like three times or four times. But that goes how I train too. I always try to, you know, solve problems in different situations. So I think that plays along with that. Speaker 1: But Victor, that's not what you're supposed to do, or isn't it? Like aren't you supposed to have a move that you're good at? How are you flowing but also being great at things? Like 'cause it's not a lot of people do what you say and they try to roll and they try to they do a lot of different stuff and generally those guys get yelled at by their coach 'cause they kind of just suck from everywhere. And they don't have anywhere that they're good. For you, how are you able to not just be good but be so high level at so many different things that you're able to do them at in competition against good competitors? Speaker 2: I think it's the approach for training, you know, my approach for training. I was thinking back, for example, like if I go to a room and I only have three guys and one of them does half guard. There are so many ways I could go about rolling with that guy different days, right? One day I could be trying to beat him at his own game. I'm going to try to pass his half guard. Other day I can think about neutralizing his sweeps. I'm just not going to get swept by his half guard. The other day I can just avoid his half guard at all costs. The other day I can pull guard before he gets me to his half guard. So I think like training that way, it makes you way more comfortable about solving problems when you actually, you know, have to solve them. Because what what I think happens a lot of times is like you said, like people think about being good at one thing only, but that kind of limits them and then they they face a problem and they can't adapt. So one of the biggest things I think in my jiu-jitsu is like my ability to adapt to different situations. Being them good or bad, like if somebody passes my guard or if somebody, you know, get gets a look at my back, like we're still going, you know, like of course it's not the best place to be, but I want to feel confident enough where I can come back from that bad situation. Or sometimes a good situation. Maybe I felt to, you know, like a mount position early in the match. And what if I didn't train any mount position before? I'll probably lose that position. So yeah, I think it has a lot to do with like adaptability, be able to adapt as the thing is going. And I think that makes training fun 'cause I'm always like, for example, like if I roll with you, that would be something that I will going to find and I'm going to have to solve that problem, you know? Like maybe have a good X-guard. Might as well put myself in your X-guard and see, you know, maybe I'll be able to defend or maybe I'll copy something you do and do it with the next guy, which is something that I do a lot too. I feel like in the ghee, I was able to highlight that a little bit better. But a lot of times I went and trained with people and I pretty much stole their move a little bit, you know, and I was able to apply it right away because I get their mindset about it, like the few steps that they do differently and then I try to apply it into my own training, my own drilling and then boom, I I'm able to hit them in competition. Speaker 1: Man, you know that that's not how especially in their how old are you now? Speaker 2: 28. Speaker 1: 28. Yeah, in their 20s, no one thinks that way. What you just the the list of things that you just called flow. To me, nobody thinks that way in a sense that you said you're it just the way you approached it in general was like you're trying to think so many moves ahead, not just in a round, but you're trying to think moves ahead of what if I'm in mount. And for competitors especially in high level competitors, guys that are competing in the space where they feel like they have to guard all their secrets and they feel like, you know, that any anything that they give is going to be taken from them and, you know, that it's this zero sum game of life. How do you have this approach mentally that is not that way? Like 'cause again, part of the well-roundedness thing, everybody that I've talked to about you says, you're going to really like Victor, he's such a nice guy. He's such a nice guy. Most of the time to be at the top of the game in competition, it seems in most areas, not everywhere, but in most areas, it seems to require a level of arrogance or lack of humility that one, I'm not hearing when you're talking about your approach to training. Your approach to training is like, well, I don't care if I lose. I'm trying to get better. Like that was the constant thing that you were saying in everything was just about getting better. Well, if I got to I have three ways to get better against the guy playing half guard against me now. And it's like most people go, I just want to avoid his half guard, right? I just don't want to be there 'cause I might lose. For you, is this is this how you've always looked at jiu-jitsu? How you've always looked at learning anything? Speaker 2: I think yeah, honestly, it's a mix, right? But probably because when I started, the name of the podcast is actually, you know, uh identify that a lot because I like to make the joke that I was the worst white belt ever. So when I started, I wasn't very talented, so I think little by little, I start seeing the win wins in the small things. Like my first big win in jiu-jitsu was able to hold somebody down in closed guard. I felt amazing, you know? Mainly my dad 'cause my dad is so strong. And I was just like a teenager. I I held him in closed guard for like three minutes. I was like, oh, this is a win. So I think it started kind of like that, you know, seeing the wins in the small things. And when it comes to competition, like I want to go out there and win, but I also want to have the confidence that I can do it all the different problems, you know? I don't want to be able to deal with those problems just by avoidance. Oh, I'm going to avoid that guy. I'm going to avoid this guy 'cause he does this, this and that. No, like why why not work on that on my training? And being around my uh professors too, I think that's like their mindset. Shanji is really big on that. That's probably why he's been training and competing for so long. You know, longevity on the mats. I haven't seen anybody training as hard as as he goes for the longest, you know? When I say hard, it's not like trying to kill himself, but he's training high level competitors for like, I don't know, 25 years. And he still competes. And people say, oh, why does he still want to compete? Because he feels great. He feels like his technique is improving, he feels like he's learning something new. So I think something something to add is like, you know, like the the the leadership, like being able to see him doing the things, kind of like, you know, inspires me a lot to train this way as well, you know? Speaker 1: Yo, so you probably realize right now we're not at I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show Studios. We are at the Fuji BJJ Expo. 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I think it was either 2016 or 2017. I I would have probably been a brown belt competed at Worlds and me and my dad stayed and watched Shanji when he was already too old to be competing at adult. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Win the Worlds. Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Speaker 1: And there was this point where um he and his brother were sitting on the warm-up mat and it was just kind of me and my dad were peeking over and they were just so calm. And it was right before the final and he went and he won. And it was just uh it was so cool to witness that. But it's also so cool to hear you talk about how that mindset is what you think produces that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: For you, you know, you kind of talked about being the worst white belt on the mat when you started. Do you remember any specific advice for you that either made a big change when you were that white belt or that has actually stuck with you since? Speaker 2: You mean like advice that helped me stay on the mats or like helped me get better or something like that? Speaker 1: Or just whether it was to help you stay on the mat if that was what you were struggling with or it was the thing that you go, oh, this this was a huge part of me actually starting to get good. Speaker 2: I think the community was the biggest thing, you know, like of course people like some guys would make fun of you. It was like, oh man, are you sure this is for you? I have I've said on the podcast before. I would trip during the warm-ups. You know, running and shuffling, I'll be the guy that trips and falls. And some people look at me and say, oh man, it's going to be a tough road for you here. Some of the guys would be like, it'll be just fine. Like everybody starts somewhere. So I think like the small, you know, small like the small pushes helps you a lot. Like some people would like support me. But I think I only start turning the key more when I was able to prove myself through technique in competition. Like it took me so long to do my first tournament. It took me 10 months. Speaker 1: Really? Speaker 2: Yeah, I waited 10 months. My my my first professor, he was he would trick us. He'd say, oh yeah, there's a tournament in two months. I want you to be ready for. And he'd just not talk about it anymore. And then 10 months later, he's like, yeah, there's actually a tournament now. Let's go compete. And man, I felt so good because I was training 10 months with always this test, oh, I might compete next month. So everything was so clutch. I was able to hit a sweep that I've been working on probably like four times. I won my match, I don't know, like 20-0 or something. But yeah, like I think that gave me confidence. Like I was like, oh, if I prepare, most likely, you know, like I'll do good when I compete. Like if I prepare myself well, if I give myself time. And yeah, I think that kind of like gives me confidence. That was like the beginning of it, you know? I I didn't win all the tournaments. It took me like the whole year to win my first gold medal, but I would win matches. And I had never done any competitive sport before. Jiu-jitsu was my first one. I never had the chance to go out and like, I don't know, compete soccer or compete swimming. So I kind of like with that, it taught me like competition a little bit too. And I was actually good that I didn't win right away because it makes you either quit or train harder. If you're not hitting your goals, right? Like I got silver eight times in a row. Like I was so deep into the silver that I really wanted the gold. So I think it helped me, you know, like build that mindset a little bit as a kid. Speaker 1: Yeah. How and you would have been like what, 13? Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like 14. Speaker 1: 14. Speaker 2: Yeah, between 14, 15. Speaker 1: Okay, and so do you remember what it exactly was that brought you into the gym? Like what what made you do your first class? Speaker 2: It was my dad. He didn't train, but he was also looking for an activity. And one of his good friends was doing jiu-jitsu for a while. Uh he avoided jiu-jitsu for the longest time. He was a judo guy. But he was in he wasn't training judo back then, but he was he had a different perspective from jiu-jitsu. He was like, oh, those guys are all rough. Uh-huh. The gauntlet, you know, he was like, oh, they hit each other with belts. Like, I'm not sure this is for me. But my dad's a really chill guy. So then uh at some point he he really trusts his friend. He was like, I might give it a chance. And the community again helped a ton, right? Like he really liked the community. He ended up having more friends that train, not at the place, but he started talking to them. He was like, yeah, you should stick to it. And you should, you know, maybe try to get your son to do it. It's good for for kids. And I was a bit chubby. I was needing to do something anyways. So he was the one that was like start pushing me. I remember I was in a break from the school, so we would actually train at times where I wouldn't train normally like mornings. Like mornings usually I'll be in the school, but it was a school break, so we'd be able to train in the mornings and stuff. It was a cool activity to do together. I'll wake up, we're going to go train. It was a new thing, so I I thought it was pretty fun. Whenever school started, I wasn't as excited to go because the time changed and I would have to go in the night. A lot of times you wouldn't go because you had to work. So it took my mom to kind of push me to go, oh, you still got to go. It's still good for you. That's how I kind of like until it became a habit. It was a lot of like their help kind of pushing me to go train and stuff. Speaker 1: That is really cool. It it's funny for me, you telling me that. I actually didn't know that story. Uh I started at 14 training. My dad and I started together. And we run our schools together now. Speaker 2: Oh, there you go. Speaker 1: And so yeah, that is uh yeah, I I I get that perspective. And what's cool is coming up I I and I've seen people that that have come up under black belts, right? Like have grown up having a dad that's a black belt. But coming up learning jiu-jitsu with your dad and seeing how he as a man handles losing and not being the best at something and just all these things, I think at least if you have the right dad, I think you can learn so much from it. Are there like, do you have any any stories, any lessons that you remember seeing your dad go through on the mat that shaped your perspective? Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot a lot of stories. I think one of the coolest is how like stiff and less healthy he was whenever he started. And seeing through my lens like not seeing him as my dad, but a regular guy, how much he improved on the mats. And how much he pretty much sucked at the beginning, right? Like of course he was strong and stuff, but he didn't know a lot. He was stiff. But then maybe three years in, he was playing guard. He was way more flexible. He wanted to learn berimbolo and stuff, you know, and he was like, oh, he's like 40s. And I was like, oh, this is pretty cool, you know, like my dad like having that humility to start something different at the beginning. And little by little, you know, start adding moves. And he wanted to compete. He lost a couple competitions, but he still would be like, oh yeah, I lost that match, but I I was able to hit this move. It was cool. So yeah, I think I never really thought about it, but yeah, that's true. Like having him as like a training partner where we're like at the same level is a unique opportunity for sure. Because not like to say anything about that, but a lot of times when people grow up with their dad's a black belt, I feel like some kids feel pressure to perform so early. They kind of push them away. 'Cause 'cause I have seen it a lot from like when I started, like 'cause I started competing as a kid. I would be kind of afraid of those kids. I was like, oh, his his dad is a black belt. He's been training since he's two years old. I started this late. The kid was really good, but I eventually didn't see them competing anymore. And then I would hear about them, oh yeah, they're not training anymore. They're they have a job now. It's like, oh, that's crazy. I don't know if that pressure early on kind of pushed them away from it. Whereas with my dad, there wasn't a lot of pressure for me to perform. They just knew how good he and my my mom just knew how good the sport was for me, so they just supported me. Winning and losing. Of course, my dad wanted me to win because he is my dad too. I saw a lot of potential. He was like, I know how good your guard is. That guy shouldn't be able to pass your guard. But yeah, it was not never like a pressure like, oh, you need to win gold. You need to do this diet because if you don't do this diet, you're going to lose. It was never like that, you know? Speaker 1: And and it's so interesting because you see so many people that they like you said, I I've seen it. The pressure is so much on these kids. And when I think back to just competing between 14 and 18, and we were I was competing every weekend. I would say there's probably two or three competitors that I ever went with during that time that still even train today. And so jiu-jitsu is such a long game. And yeah, I think I even what you said, I worry about I I have a two-year-old son. And I worry about so much like, man, I don't want him to feel like he has to do jiu-jitsu. I love jiu-jitsu. I think it's something that everybody should try and experience. But and the reason is people will look at him at the gym and be like, hey, are you going to be a world champion? I'm like, brother, he can't even talk. Let him just enjoy being a child. And you know, you I know for you, you've had to have felt pressure at times as a competitor. Do you remember anything as a competitor coming up like in starting to feel pressure at any point or do you feel like you've always been able to manage even as the stages have gotten bigger and the stakes for you have gotten bigger in competition. Do you feel like you've always been able to Big Man Flow through it? Speaker 2: I think the pressure came at the right time where I was able to handle. I think that was the main thing, right? Like for example, I was never pressured as a kid. So that helps. Like as a kid, I think the main thing is having fun, having that community, try your best, trial and error. Like go back. It's actually good sometimes you get a few losses. Man, if you come up, like I I didn't want to be myself like imagine if I won everything from white all the way to purple and my first big loss is a purple belt. That's going to be hard because as as purple belt, I was probably like would be like a 19-year-old without the maturity of handle a loss, you know? So losing early on kind of like shaped me onto like be able to lose later on and okay, I'm sad about it, but how am I going to fix that? It's not the first time. It's not the last time either. So I think it came at the right time, you know? Of course there's pressure, but it was just enough pressure that I needed, you know, and I was able to handle. Where nowadays, like, oh, there's that pressure to perform. I don't feel a whole lot of pressure to perform because what I feel is like I need to put in the work to give everybody a good performance 'cause I wanted to be here. So it's more like that mindset, you know? I think I think that's how I think about it if that makes sense. Speaker 1: Do you have anything you had mentioned just losses shaping you. Do you have any specific losses, whether in your career recently or whether at the beginning of jiu-jitsu for you, that you really think to is like, I remember this affecting me in a way that it changed something big. Speaker 2: That is a couple, like I think each belt, there was one, actually, if if if it's a a way to say it. Sorry, I just heard a guy punch the punch the bag machine really hard. He almost flipped. Speaker 1: Hey, that's the part of being at a live tournament, man. I've seen some things happening behind you and I'm like, oh my gosh. I should remember this for later. Speaker 2: It's hard. I think they like this like, brother. But yeah, like the the the belts, each belt was one. Like white belt, for example, uh I was doing pretty good, but then I man, I competed against this kid. He was like, he looked like a man. And I was a 15-year-old. I better had muscles. He arm-barred me so hard. Belly down arm-bar. That was that was when I learned a belly down arm-bar. Like back then, like up until then, 'cause I was a white belt, I probably didn't have enough classes. I've never seen anybody perform a belly down arm-bar. He belly down arm-barred me and it was a finals. And I just didn't want to tap, so he popped my elbow. So I went back, you know, home and I had a hurt elbow. So I had I I don't remember if I put a cast on it, but I I couldn't do a push-up for a month. So that kind of shaped me on like, oh, this is what it feels like when you lose and you get hurt. And when you lose and you get hurt, am I going to quit or am I just going to try to work around it? So I kind of worked around it. Like as soon as I could flex my elbow, I went back to training. Of course, I wasn't training hard 'cause I couldn't post. But it was a big one. As a blue belt, I start winning a lot statewide. But then I went uh I went to the trials for the Abu Dhabi trials in other states. And I and I start losing to guys from South of Brazil, from bigger teams. And it was frustrating 'cause it was like, I beat everybody on my own state, you know, like why am I losing to this guy? Like, what am I missing? So it start it gave me like material, like there's something else to work on. Maybe it's the mindset. Purple belt, I think the biggest loss, not the biggest loss, but the one that was like the most touching was like, my first year as purple belt, I won everything. Like I won double gold. And I was six months as a I only had six months as a purple belt. So I had to stay one more year. The second year, I won my division, but I lost the absolute to Jonatas Gracie. That one was a hard one because the way it happened, it was funny in a way because my side of the bracket on the absolute, I got it done like quick. He's when I was ready for the finals, he was still on his second match of the bracket. And he looked bad. Like every match he would go down and like lay down. Like people would throw water on him. And I was like, oh, my crazy or did he have Andrew Wiltse in the semi-final of that division? Yeah, I remember I was there. Before that, he had uh this big judo guy. Yes, I was I watched that whole division. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was I was just watching him going and I was like, I'm going to like kill this guy. He's dead. And it was so excited. But then whenever the match started, my hands start cramping. My legs start cramping and I start freaking out. I was like, oh my god, I'm going to do and he was so fast. He started blitzing me and stuff. And I lost the match. And it made me like, oh, like I guess I'm not that I'm not that great. What what are the things I'm doing wrong? Like 'cause I felt like there was there was no chance I would lose that match, you know, I lost it. So I was like, that was a big one. I was like, oh shit. And then also, of course, having my mentors telling me the things that I needed to hear, it made me, you know, you know, shape my mentality better for the next year. So I think like each belt, there was probably like a loss where I was able to like handle in a good way and I get better after that one. Speaker 1: Holy smack. I I've been I've had three or four submission losses in the same day. Holy cow. Uh man. Speaker 2: It's a weird feeling when you have the zero 'cause a lot of people don't care about it. Like it's not a stat that everybody's posting and all this, but you know, like you know, I've never got caught. When am I going to get caught? Am I going to get caught ever? So on the back of my mind, sometimes that's over there, right? So it happened and fine, move on. Speaker 1: Do you have a win that you think of for yourself that you go for me, this is my biggest win. It doesn't have to be the, you know, whatever you consider, even if it's at white belt. Do you have something that you look at in your life that or a title, a specific match victory that you go, this is what competition was for me. This is this defines my Speaker 2: I think that 23 Worlds, 2023 Worlds will definitely will finals. Because the way I was able to deliver the performance, it's probably one of the reasons that I've been waiting, taking my time to go back to the ghee. 'Cause I know I'm going to have to push really hard to suppress that. You know, like it was such a good, you know, like I was able to submit Eric. I don't think he has lost since then. Like he's so dominant. So the the the things I was able to do that day, the amount of work I put up until that day, you know, like not only on the training room, but getting myself out of the comfort zone and on the physical side too, 'cause I realized that I needed to work a little bit harder on the, you know, physical preparation. Make sure I'm like getting my strength training. So I was able to connect with Jon from Pro Athlete. And with the training camp, if I consider that training camp like six months with the preparation, I almost lifted more weights and did more cardio, more conditioning than jiu-jitsu for a little bit of it because I was just needing to catch up. I felt behind on that part. The jiu-jitsu side, it was okay, but I also having to wake up at 6:00 a.m. to go lift weights at 7:00 a.m. and train after, build that mentality. Whenever I came up to Worlds, I was like ready to go, you know, like I felt good. Any moment I felt tired, any moment I felt like I wouldn't lose because of like I got tired or I made the wrong move. Like I felt like my my physical ability, my technical abilities were at the peak. So I think that one, probably my favorite moment, you know? Speaker 1: So what is it that made your physical and your technical abilities peak, if you know, at that point? What was it that 'cause that's the thing is you've reference you referenced CGI one, you're not healthy. The peak is just not at the right time. You're trying to perform at your best against the best guys who are also trying to perform at their best. What do you think it was that just hit for that 2023 Worlds? I mean, just run for you. That really was one of the more one of the most flawless runs in in Worlds history. And so for you, what is the do you do you remember something in the training in the was there anything that stands out to you that was different? Speaker 2: Everything felt like it clicked. Like my body felt good, felt great actually. No pain at all, no no nagging injuries. And then the training felt great too. Of course, like you're not going to be I was I'm not saying that it's great that I'm submitting everybody like a month before the tournament. But I was able to handle the push just fine 'cause we really like to do those like hard pushes, you know, a couple weeks before the tournament. And my body was handling it just fine. I was getting tired, but as I was tired, I still my my cognitive, I still felt like aware. Like I was never tired. I was like, oh my god, what's happening? Like I felt sharp. So I think it was just like everything clicked. And it was probably one of the few times before Worlds where I didn't have like an injury that made me like, oh, I maybe I can't do this. Yeah. Maybe I can't shoot or take down like this way. Or maybe I can't play guard a certain way. I felt good. Like my body felt ready. So I think that kind of like gave me great confidence that nothing's stopping me this time. And having Shanji and Lovato there after every match. I remember Lovato would come to me and say, I think it was like the second match of the day. I had eight or something. He was like, you're my son. There's going to be eight today. After eight matches today, you're going to be a Hall of Famer. That'll be it. Like he's just like solidified that on my mind. I kept thinking, all right, five in, eight to go. After eight, Hall of Fame. So it was like just kept like you tell yourself something so many times and you believe it, you know, and then it's kind of fun when it happens. Speaker 1: Yeah. What was that feeling like then? You you after eight of eight, you had talked about it, you had worked for it, you had focused on it. And obviously the right community is there. Like you said earlier, you've got the right guys, the community's changed, of course, but the community that you need for a world title run, you have world champions in your corner that know how to do it. You have Hall of Famers in your corner that know how to do it. And then it happens. How does it feel? Speaker 2: Oh man, it was unique, you know? Uh I'm not really big on like after I win, I go crazy. Oh yeah, like but that one was it meant more because actually everybody involved in the preparation was there. My, you know, my uh strength and conditioning coach, he was there. It was actually I think his first jiu-jitsu tournament that he got to watch live. And he got to see like, oh, yeah. Like he told me after like, Victor is not getting tired. Victor looks strong. He just threw that guy like nothing. So he was like, he's excited for me, right? Like, oh, like my little pitbull was like, that's how I felt like, oh, it's work all the things we did is working. And the boys, Felipe and Arash, they were with me every morning lifting. And having them there, like seeing me every match winning. And then there's Shanji and Lovato on the jiu-jitsu side and on the mentality side too, seeing everything clicking in. So it was just uh amazing, you know? And all the than that, my today wife, Alex, she was there. She saw every time in the preparation. She saw, you know, some days you don't want to go. And then she saw me, you know, give up a little bit. And then going, so she sees like the back side of everything. And she be her be able to see me winning that, you know, like it was awesome. So I think it was I was happy for myself, but I'm almost like more happy for them to deliver them like that moment, you know, like we worked to build this together. So I conquered this, but it's ours too 'cause you guys you guys helped me, you know, you guys paved the road with me. Speaker 1: That's really cool. That's that's got to be an amazing feeling to share with people that you really care about. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: That's really cool. So, okay, then take me 10 minutes before it happens. You're about to walk out onto the mat in the open class final. If you've ever been to day two of Black Belt Worlds, the male open class final is the coolest ghee moment that there is each year. And it's not even close. It is amazing. What are the thoughts going through your head? How many of the thoughts are about you, about how you feel? How many of the thoughts are about your opponent, about the strategy that you're thinking about implementing, about the beginning of the match? Where's your head at then? Speaker 2: I think I try to think very little about uh the greatness of the match, like of that moment. What do I mean by that? The finals, right? Because I've been doing ghee Worlds since 2016. So I went to watch every finals, like you did. I stayed there up until the last last match because that's usually where I watch Buchecha compete, Buchecha, Leandro. So I tried to think that I was I tried to think very little about that because if I did, I think it would almost like make me more nervous. Make me a I'm a bigger uh deal of it that wouldn't help me. So I just stay focused on the task. I was just focused on beating Eric. And I don't know, man, I just had that confidence that I was going to be able to submit him. And of course, having the coaches telling me that helps too. Like, oh, there's no way you're going to be able to get him. And on my mind, I'm like, I feel like I'm going to be able to submit him. I just don't know how, but I think I I can pull this off. So from the very, you know, from the very beginning of the moment, if you see, I even do like a weird, I run, I run right at him and I pull guard. And on my mind, I wasn't sure what move I was going to do. Like I don't I don't I don't get to play that game where I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to use this system to beat his guard. Over there, I was just like, I think it was a lot of mindset. I was like, I'm going to I did all my work. This one to go. I'm going to get through this guy. However, I don't know, somehow. I'm going to get a submission. So I just got confident. And the funniest thing is, I got him on the knee bar. And every seminar I go, people ask me, can you show us the Eric knee bar? I'm like, brother, it's hard to do that one again 'cause it was so specific to the moment. I of course I do I have a system to how I apply my knee bars, but that one was just like the perfect moment, the perfect opportunity and I was just ready to take it, you know? Speaker 1: Had you watched his matches that day or the day before? Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched. Like I watched. I was actually watching the finals before my finals 'cause a lot of the finals were good. I'm pretty sure it was the same day that Jansen beat Tainan. So like the the atmosphere was crazy, right? Like that was like a big, you know, a big one. And then I think yeah, the other the other matches were good too. So I was kind of pumped. And I watched his matches too. But for me, that tournament, I was feeling such like, how can I say? Like I was on such a great run because I beat Kainan too. Of course, I didn't dominate Kainan. But I tied him out and I beat him. And it seems like a hard guy to beat. Yeah. And I lost to him eight times before that. So I was like, I already had, you know, that big stride. Like I beat Kainan right before. Like I think it was the semis or the quarterfinals. But I beat Kainan and then I'm going to fight with Eric. And there's one more guy that I lost twice and I have this chance to not just take that, you know, one of the losses back. So it got me motivated, right? Like I was like, I can do this. I already did this, you know, against a guy that beat me eight times. So might as well get the get the deal done and do this against this guy. So I think it was just it was just a perfect build-up, you know? Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. That that's a really that sounds like a really cool moment. Speaker 2: The jiu-jitsu mats are really gross. If you really think about it. I try to not think about it. I've actually run into this problem of writing commercials for my friends at Sports Hygiene. It's so hard to write commercials because if I just really am honest with people and we all just sat for a second and we think about how gross the jiu-jitsu mats are. We just really we marinate on that thought in the same way that we marinate on all of the body fluids of our friends. And then you hear about a product from Sports Hygiene. You hear about their product Full Guard. And you hear about this idea of hypochlorous acid and how it can literally kill ringworm, it can kill staff, and it is good for your skin biome. And this idea that there is a spray that you could literally spray on in between rounds to protect your body from the grossness of the jiu-jitsu mats is unbelievable. And it just so happens that they love the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show and want to give a promo code to you guys and that is promo code I Suck. And so at checkout, when you are getting your case of Full Guard to just douse your body in because of how gross the mats are, be sure to use promo code I Suck at checkout. Let's get back to the episode. Speaker 1: Did you feel like Okay, so this is something that's interesting to me. You don't get paid a lot for winning the IBJJF Worlds. I watched you last year make 300 grand in two days competing. I ask you what the biggest moment for you, the biggest win for you. And it's ghee IBJJF Worlds. Tell me about that. Why? Speaker 2: I think again, it's just because of that turning key moment, right? Up until that performance, I'm pretty sure everybody thought I was good. Like, oh, Victor's good. But on that the storyline, it's it it closed the circle. Not saying that I'm done in the ghee, but it closed the circle in a perfect way. What do I mean is, my first Worlds as a black belt, I won in a very controversial way. I won because I was fighting with Nicolas and he flipped off somebody in the crowd and then he got DQed after the match. So then they need somebody to do the finals. They pulled me back and I faced the guy I had beaten. Oh, the guy that uh won the other side of the bracket. So then I ended up winning and it was all this confusion, which for me I didn't care. I liked it 'cause I was like, yeah, just talk about it. Like it's internet. The more you talk about it, the more people will know about me. Yes. But on the other side, people are saying, oh yeah, lucky you. You probably retire now. You already won your title that they gave it to you. Good for you. On my mind, I was like, guys, I'm going to go back and prove you that I can actually win a tournament. So then I went the next year and technically I feel good, but the physical side still wasn't peaking. So I had a really tough tournament and that finals, I showed everybody that I can win. But you know, I can also win in a hard way. It was a really hard match. So then that set me up for the next year, which my mind was, I can I can I should not let it be that hard. That's what people kept telling me, why do you why why are you letting it be so hard for you to win? You got to go out there and dominate. So the the next performance was going to be all about domination. And guess what? I delivered. I think the whole storyline, how it started, how it ends, it was just like cool story, you know? Yeah, that's a It was not like, oh yeah, Victor won 21 Worlds beating everybody easy. It was not like, I don't know how to say, a fairy tale. It was like a lot of like grind, you know, like a lot of like people talking shit like, oh yeah, like the first one wasn't one. So it just helped me, you know, like go through all those things and show and prove that I'm great. I can be great. Speaker 1: I think this is the storyline. CGI was great. Making money is amazing. Oh, when it comes to a moment, I think that's such a cool storyline that I don't get to talk about a lot and I think it's cool. If I get to talk about it because it's a bit of like an underdog story. Yeah, dude. And I mean it is. You didn't I it's not like you're you're telling us your story and saying, yeah, I started on the mat and my coach was like, oh, bro, you're going to be a world champion. You're the best ever. But you when you and and maybe people don't always recognize this, but when you win the open class of ghee Worlds, you are the best person in jiu-jitsu on the planet in that moment. And there is anyone who would argue with that ain't at the tournament. That is, you know, and you you would have a much more valuable perspective on the ghee versus no-gi side of it. But the amount of amazing Brazilian athletes that come every year that you've never heard of that you have to beat at Worlds, that are jumping into the black belt scene that you have to beat at Worlds. It is so high level. And to get to that point and to get that win, then to turn around and say, I'm going to do no-gi now. What was the motivation to that? Why not just stick out in the ghee and say, why I can just be here for the next couple years and dominate and retire? 'Cause you see most of the guys that do it in the IBJJF, that's how they do it. Is they go, well, I'll just keep winning this and build an amazing legacy and have an amazing IBJJF style team. What is your what was your motivation for no-gi? Speaker 2: It's a mix. Uh kind of like the feeling too. Like I'm having a constant path kind of upwards in no-gi. I had good performance, I had great performance and then I have poor performances. So as a competitor, you want to like crack the code, right? So after I got done in the ghee, of course I can go back and win again. But for me, the no-gi is like, man, I haven't cracked the code yet. I don't feel comfortable in a way where like I feel well-rounded. I feel like I can get much better in different things. And the biggest proof of that is maybe going back and watching my matches, maybe against Gordon. Like he was way ahead of me. Like how can I make it more fair? Like going back, like how can I make the Victor better to face somebody like Gordon, which is very like one of the best to do it in no-gi. So it kind of like maybe one of like the competitive side like, I want to get better at this thing. The other side is opportunities. There are different opportunities, right? Like the no-gi side is growing a lot. And also I think a lot of times as an athlete or somebody in the industry, you got to understand that sometimes you also have to give it back to the industry in a way where no-gi, I feel like the heavyweights, they need a star. So maybe I might as well try to be one of the heavyweight stars. The other one is fighting the labels. What do I mean the labels? When I first started transitioning to no-gi, I was more of like a IBJJF guy. I think that's why if I walk into a no-gi room, you have to describe me. Oh yeah, that's Victor. He's an IBJJF guy. He competes in the ghee. I think nowadays, I I feel like less and less. Victor is Victor. He's not like an IBJJF guy. So it's kind of like fighting that label too. No, I can do no-gi. Like I can be a no-gi guy. But yeah, it was like a mix of all those things. Probably that's more than I'm forgetting, but yeah, I think those things are kind of like what got me into it. And as I start doing it, it was again, cool learning new things. The wrestling side, you know, which it's huge. Leg locks, different names for different things, different strategies. So it's been it's been a fun, you know, journey with no-gi and it's been paying really well too. So might as well have fun and make money. Yeah, man. That makes so much sense. But you also look you named it already. That's why most IBJJF guys won't go is because the wrestling is totally different and it's more important a certain rule set and it seems to be more necessary to be well-rounded on the feet. And then the leg locks are so different. You could have easily said after getting your first submission loss in no-gi, I'm done with this. I don't why would I care? Why don't want to do this, this? I could just do ghee, which I'm already doing, which is losing athletes. People would be happy to pay me to be doing ghee stuff. It just to me, was there is there more to it for you or is it just when you look at legacy, you go, this is the Victor that I want people to remember. And it's this well-rounded person on and off the mats, but on the mats, it is 'cause there there's nobody else that fills that role for our generation. Nobody has you are either a ghee guy now or a no-gi guy and it's this controversial thing now. And I'm sure you know, when we came up, it wasn't. Everybody trained both. You just showed up to the gym and you trained in whatever they were wearing. And you've kept that and have kind of carried that flag for guys. Is that what it is about for you? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Most definitely. The legacy part too because as things start dividing, there are couple guys that are really good in no-gi and there's a couple guys that are really good at ghee. Like there are top of guys in different sports. So for me to be able to face both, you know, like I got to fight the best in the ghee while they're doing ghee and I got to fight the best in no-gi while they're doing no-gi. So it's kind of like for the legacy part, it's like, oh yeah, that guy went there and tested himself against the best while they are the best. It's not like I'm going to no-gi to face somebody that just left the ghee. They better know like transitioning. No, yeah. I went to no-gi and I start facing guys that they only do no-gi. They've been doing no-gi for six years straight. They probably know way more about the no-gi game than I do, but I'm game too. I can show that the little I know, I'm able to I'm able to, you know, make it work. And now it's like at that point where I still feel like I'm learning new things. There is new promotions, there are new opportunities and I'm just like very fulfilled with no-gi right now. And it's also helping me grow in my brand. Expanding in a way where I I'm not being labeled anymore, right? Like now it's Big Man Flow. Big Man Flow does everything. So yeah, that's how that's how I am right now. Speaker 1: So on that note, you know, when we started with Yes, we started with being well-rounded, but as we talked more, we started to realize like, oh, Victor thinks a lot about the future. He you think a lot about like, this is where I want to be five years, 10 years from now in my jiu-jitsu. This is where I want to be in the next, you know, in this round. You know, you you you plan ahead and you think ahead. What do you think that retirement from competition will look like for you? Because you're obviously doing stuff now to set yourself up for that. A lot again, a lot of the competitors, they assume that the instructionals that they're slinging right now because they're the best, will just keep coming in because they used to be the best. And it doesn't seem to be that way. You seem to have seen that and started to go, I need to build that brand. Brand. Was that advice you were getting? Was that, you know, and also for you, what do you look at for the next five years for you or however long you plan on competing, especially competing at adult high level competition. What do you think will be after that for you? Speaker 2: Uh, first, I think what I played a big role, I think in my head was not having, you know, like great performances all the time because mainly I got hurt. So when you get hurt, it makes you think. Like, oh, what if I can't compete? And also I had the privilege of always having older teammates. Whenever I moved to America, most of the guys I hang, they're all like 30, late 20s, some of them 40s. So their mindset is a bit different, right? They're thinking a little bit ahead and they're telling me those things. Where as a young guy, you would ignore most of them and just live the moment. Of course. But it's important for you to take some of that knowledge like, oh yeah, that guy has a point. What what's the main one is like, what what's going to happen when you can't compete anymore? You hear that all the time. And you might not react at it right away. You might not have a plan, but you need to have that on the back of your mind like, what what am I going to do? Because this can't last forever. So with time and with the right people around me, I start finding that path. And little by little, that that's getting closer, right? I'm 28 right now. But the place I feel comfortable right now after getting done with competition, it's I don't know, maybe it's the being in the business of making other people successful and also helping them what find their success. A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me. And nowadays, as somebody as a leader, there's a lot of people that really want something. They really want to accomplish things. They really want to work. They really want, but a lot of times there's not a lot of opportunities, there's not enough vision. So being in a spot where I can provide that is really fulfilling, you know? A lot of times for them, success is not going to be being a world champion. A lot of times for them, success is going to be run a great academy. Make sure to provide for their family or work at jiu-jitsu. If that's going to be what success is going to be for them. Maybe they don't like working something else and they see a passion, they're passionate about it. Might as well give them a career. So I think more and more as I'm getting done, this looks like where I'm going to be working at. And it's exciting because there's competition. You compete with yourself. Can I be a better leader? Can I provide for more people? Can I make sure that all my people, you know, like are in a good spot? Am I giving them opportunities for growth? So it's leading more towards that side. But historically, as a competitor, you give more for people in the sport. It's really hard to let go. 'Cause you're on a high. You compete in the tournaments. You're a star inside this niche. Everybody knows you. And there is always opportunities because we don't have a lot of stars. So if you have that star power, there's always going to be a chance for you to compete somewhere, for you to travel somewhere, to do whatever something. So yeah, it's like almost like preparing yourself to like go off that. It's going to be a big part. And I feel I feel like more and more 'cause I kind of live this double life. I'm ready to let go, you know, like I can't say that I'm ready until I'm ready, but I'm giving myself occupied outside of the mats where I feel like I have a great mission too, more than just winning matches. More than, you know, just doing this for myself, but, you know, like providing for the community. Make sure that people around me are successful as well. So yeah, this is the thing that goes through my mind. Speaker 1: Yeah, that man. Why do you care though? Why do you care about other guys and their success? Why does that matter to you? And why not try really, really hard to hold on to the cool BJJ fame? Speaker 2: Uh mainly because a lot of like a main reason for me to be able to do the things I do today is because people cared about me as I was starting and they definitely didn't have to. For example, the guy that paid for my first flight, my first visit to America, he he was a blue belt. He didn't even like he competed a little bit. He definitely didn't need to do anything he did, but he did it. So he gave me that little opportunity that maybe if he did not, I wouldn't be here today. So he got out of his way to help me.