Most People Train... But Never Improve

Speaker 1: You're trying to get better at BJJ and the secret is feedback. Now, there's different types of feedback and not everybody loves it, but it is going to make the biggest difference and we're going to unpack how this can really help you. Because many people, they're not getting the feedback they need and that's why they're not getting better at BJJ. Now, when I brought this topic up to you, Joe, you were like, oh, hang on. Cuz some people, they don't want to hear that. They just want to do their thing. They just want to express themselves. Uh, but here's the thing, like anything you do in life, and you you may have experienced this, Joe, where an expert, a master, whether it be a master craftsman or someone who's really good at any given thing, shows you the right way to do a thing and you're like, damn. Why why didn't no one show me this three years ago? Cuz I've been, you know, you've been battling through because you've you've learned from your own experience and that's cool. But then when someone who is an expert shows you the the the expert way, you're like, God, it would have saved me so much time if I knew that a while ago. Have you had that experience before? Speaker 2: When the student is ready, the teacher shall appear. The teacher shall whisper in your ear. Maybe, maybe. Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, yeah, for sure, man. Like, I mean, um, in everything, right? And we I think in the in a in a coaching setting, like going to Jiu-Jitsu or going to the gym, we we well, it depends on what gym you go to, but if you go to somewhere where you get coached, then you sign up for feedback. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: You know, you're like, yeah, I'm coming here because you seem to know the thing and I want to know the thing and so tell me about it. And I Speaker 2: Yeah, to to a lesser or greater extent. Speaker 1: I I think we probably have a bias as people who coach, have been coached, that we are expecting a certain level of input. Whereas some people are just like, show the thing, I do the thing, that's what this is, right? Speaker 2: Yes, yes. But I I mean more like um, like if you go and sign up at a Jiu-Jitsu Academy, you are expecting someone's going to be telling you how to do it and being like, hey, you're doing that wrong, you know, whether they do or they don't. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: Right? Um, however, in some environments, we're very closed to that. And I I mean, this fucking it it boggles my mind to no end. When I train at the Globo gym near my house, which I go there a couple of times a week, I am always always looking for opportunities to offer someone feedback because Speaker 1: They need it. Speaker 2: everyone there moves like shit. And I'm like, hey guys, I'm like a really good coach. And I got this sick gym and like I fucking forged a career out of helping people like you be actually good at the thing that you're trying to get good at and and and I don't drop any of that, but I'm like, Speaker 1: I do. I I let them know. I get out, I get out the special goat mask. I'm the goat. Like I I tell people I'm possibly Speaker 2: Do you do that with that horse head? Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Just going nuts. Uh, it scares them away. But you know, uh, Speaker 2: Cunts don't want to hear it. Speaker 1: No, it's difficult. Speaker 2: They do not like but people do not know how to hear it in that setting. People are like I'll go in. There's a guy that I've sort of become friendly with, but he was just doing some some weird kind of shoulder uh shoulder press sort of incline bench thing. And I was like, um, hey, tell me about the exercise you're doing. And he was like, oh, you know what, actually, shit, fuck, I don't even know. I don't know, man. I I had a PT like session like three years ago of my getting ready for my wedding and again, you know, and I was like, hey, look, I'm a coach. Um, could I offer you some feedback? And he was like, yeah, man, shoot. And so I offered him some feedback and then he all he did then was go on for about 10 minutes, basically deflecting my feedback. Speaker 1: Sure. Speaker 2: Well, no, well, actually, you know, I just fucking, oh, I guess, you know, what am I going to do? Fuck. And I'm like, are you a fucking dumb cunt? I just gave you the magic key, brother. You but but was oblivious to it that he was like, boom, boom, boom, like deflected all the, you know. And so I'm like, and this is the thing, right? So a lot of folks are closed off to it. Um, and so I I think that's the Speaker 1: Do you think that it is the case also at Jiu-Jitsu though? Speaker 2: Not no, not not so much, but I do think it's something that has to be mentioned because because it's easy to to say, oh, yeah, I'm up for that, like tell me, you know, I'm up for it. And then someone gives you some hard feedback that you don't want to hear. And that's when your your your fucking deflections, your walls come up. Yeah. And you know, and that's where you'll be like, you're a fucking coach told me to what the fuck does he know me? He doesn't play my game, shit. You know, like you start finding your ego starts finding ways to not hear it. Speaker 1: Sure. Speaker 2: And so I think it's an acknowledgement for anyone that's like, yeah, I think feedback's important and I I want it. Like, all right, well, you got to be prepared that it's you're not always going to want to hear it. Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't always what you get as feedback doesn't always suit you. It's not always pleasant, but it doesn't mean that's not helpful. And so I I think that there is a piece of this, like I wanted to break down different types of feedback. So if we can if we can get to the point of being like, yes, I am someone who's trying to get better and I feel like I'm not getting feedback, how do I get it? What do I do? But something that was I can't remember who taught it to me, but they were basically like, if you have not practiced giving feedback, you also not be good at receiving it. Like it's this idea that it's just a form of communication about um, change. And it doesn't matter if it's it doesn't matter if it's like counseling or it's public speaking or it's something where you're like, oh, I just don't do that. You're like, well, try it and and and and see and there there is this element of Jiu-Jitsu, which is kind of there's lots of fuck around and find out. But if you if the person in front of you has done it for 20 years and they have surely fucked around and found out way more than you, it is worthwhile giving their advice a try. I mean, that's that's why you're there, right? Like, yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, and to that point, I mean, someone that is less experienced than you can still give you feedback, right? Speaker 1: Oh, 100%. Speaker 2: Because it's just it's just a third-party observation. Speaker 1: It's yeah. Speaker 2: Of hey, you know what, man? I just noticed a thing that could make you even better at what you do. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Speaker 2: You know, and and and of course, it's not like we're saying like, hey, white belts, like go and pull up your coach. Go and pull up, hey, man, you know when you were that the way you put that arm bar on. But but you know, there there's there's moments there where it's like, you don't have to be equal or or superior to me. Speaker 1: Expert. Speaker 2: Yeah, in order to notice something, you know? Speaker 1: Oh, no, I totally agree, but let's let's go there. Speaker 2: Peel it back. Let's go back. Speaker 1: So, let's go to the coach because I believe that you know, it's the coach is part of the reason why you go to a gym. You you've either formed a relationship or you've watched the class and you thought, I like this person. Male or female, they've got they've got something and I want to learn that thing. Now, I think a class is good is a good opportunity for general feedback, you know, but then there's specific feedback, which might present itself in the form of like a private lesson or or something where the coach actually comes in and helps you out. But the thing is, often times when people train, and you know, we all train for different reasons, often the thing holding us back is we don't seek the feedback. We don't say, hey, look at me, help me with this thing. I don't know if I'm getting it wrong or right. Because people feel self-conscious. You're in a room of 20 people, 30 people, who knows? And there's so much stuff that's been drummed into us from society, which is just just fit in. Shut up. Any questions? Shut up, don't say anything. Yeah. And look like an idiot. You all look like idiots. You don't know what you're doing. Like, Speaker 2: Guys, any questions? No questions. Right, three, two, one, let's go. Speaker 1: It sounds like. You're like, can't I just fucking that window's closed now. It's over. And and so you know, we we have to overcome a fair bit, but I I I mean, maybe it's just because I'm I don't I don't know why. I've always asked questions. My mom drummed it into me and and has uh regretted it ever since. She said, you always got to ask why. Like there's always a there's a reason behind something you should find out. Never just take it on on on gratis like that it is what it is. No, ask why it is the way it is because that also reveals if the person understands what they're talking about. Uh, and then she for most of the rest of my life, like, Mom, why do you say that? She's like, just just do it cuz I told you to do it. Clean your room. Speaker 2: You don't have to ask me, I'm your mom. Speaker 1: I'm the boss. Um, but but yeah, I think that there is part of the reason what's holding back people's learning is they feel too self-conscious or they're like, oh, I'm not important or like I can't even though you've paid the money, you showed up. And coaches are looking to share that knowledge and give that information. Speaker 2: Good good ones. Speaker 1: Yeah, good ones, right? Yeah, because there are there are some people who just like, no, do the drill, whatever, you work it out. Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty of lazy, tired, fucking coaches out there, right? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: I mean, and you know, even even not that coach necessarily, but like if you go to a gym where there's like and you train at the peak class in the evening and there's like fucking 60 people on the mats and they got two coaches. Yes, probably slim chance that you're getting a lot of like specific eyes on you to like assess what you're doing. Whereas if you train at a smaller team or you go to the 9:30, you know, quieter class or whatever, and it's like, it's the coach and then like four other people. You would hope that coach is like giving you quite a lot of custom because there's only fucking five people to look at. Speaker 1: They'd also if it's the same coach, it might be a different coach at uh, you know, a morning class compared to night class. Speaker 2: That's right. Speaker 1: You know, you might get a a fresher, more involved coach at that time. Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, potentially. Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, definitely you, you know, I'm a very jazz hands happy guy at 6:00 a.m. Catch me at 7:00 p.m. I'll just fucking choke you. That's the lesson. You know. You know, so it's you got to choose your moments there. But but as someone who's paid a bit of money for private lessons, I have gotten a fair bit out of that from asking specific questions. Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: Because everybody gets different problems in different situations. Speaker 2: I think um, I think the main thing for for folks, like cuz there's a discipline to seeking feedback in Jiu-Jitsu, isn't there? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: There's a discipline because you you finish training, you're tired, it's time to go home, whatever, and it takes extra effort to go, hey coach, I keep running into this problem. Can you, you know? And so that's one thing, it does require effort on your part. Um, but you also have to know what to ask. And that is very challenging in the beginning, right? You don't know. Speaker 1: That's true. Speaker 2: You don't know. So I I think this is what I I tell folks when this comes up from time to time is like, just try to remember one dilemma you keep ending up in, like, oh, fuck, I'm so and so just always mounts me. I always get mounted and and and then just ask your coach about that. Like, just really simple, like, hey, I keep getting mounted by so and so. What am I doing wrong? And coach might be like, look, you know what, I I need to take a closer look. But like, sweet, check me out next lesson, you know? Or they might be like, yeah, I've noticed that happens to you all the time, it's because of X. But like, that simple like, you assessing, you asking, them giving you a thing, I got a solution now. You stop the you stop getting mounted, you get that reward of, oh, fuck, I I sought the feedback and now my game's better. And now that becomes an easy loop that you can replicate, right? Uh, and I think that and I I've never done enough of that. Let my physicality do the talking, right? Of course. Per our previous episode. But um, but I think that that's a really powerful. If you can build that habit, fuck me, like if you can learn one thing at every Jiu-Jitsu class, man, you'll be better than most most people on the mats. Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by the makers of the greatest electrolyte in the game, Sodi. We've been partnered with these guys for some time and the reason that we love Sodi is that they have a potent electrolyte product, which is exactly what you need for a sport like Jiu-Jitsu where you sweat a bunch. When you sweat on the mats, you lose electrolytes and this is why supplementing with them is an absolute game changer for recovery and performance. And check it out, you can actually go for the single serving packs, which are great. I pump one of these after every training session, or you can get the tub and the beauty of the tub is that less plastics, but also you can moderate how much you have. So if you just want to have a smaller dose, like you're having it in the morning, first thing when you wake up, you can go for a half dose, or if you want to have a little top up at night or something like that, you can choose how much per scoop. You can get 15% off Sodi now when you go to their website, Sodi, that's S O D I I dot com dot A U, and you use the code bulletproof 15 to get 15% off. Go there now and enhance your performance and recovery. And that and I think this is the huge thing that I I really want to get to here is that you even if you're like, oh, I don't want to private lesson, it's having it takes a little bit of courage and also takes a little bit of mindfulness to say like to go up to your coach after class and ask that little bit of extra effort from them. And and and you've got to remember what the fuck happened, like you said. And we'll get to that remembering bit in a second. But sometimes coach is not available. It's just simple. If you train at a a popular gym and depending on the class structure, cuz sometimes you you know, you're at the beginning class and then the intermediate class is on, you got to fucking get in the shower and leave and you don't get those opportunities with the coach. Training partners are great, but it's got to be the right training partner, right? Because I I've had some training partners who are great to roll with cuz they were hard to roll, but they were assholes. Like you try to chat to them, like, shout out Ben Hodgkinson. Um, me and Hodger good now, but there was a time when I couldn't Speaker 2: Funny a guy with an Instagram handle sandbagging. Never imagined that he'd be like a bit of a withholding of information. Speaker 1: No, you know, he's he's changed a bit. But I mean, he's a troll. He used to just he used to just fucking troll me off the mat. Like Speaker 2: This is this seems like the Melbourne scene. Speaker 1: No, no, he's from Perth. He's fucking like, Speaker 2: You've been Melberg, Craig was there too. Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's from South Australia. It's not that. It's a personality type. Right. I don't know. I don't I couldn't I couldn't say for sure if uh, Speaker 2: Kid. Speaker 1: If Ben Ben well, but no, but Speaker 2: A lot of meme Jiu-Jitsu comes out of Melbourne. Speaker 1: It yeah, maybe it's that it's the concentration of talent that attracts meme motherfuckers. But also attracts some nice people too. You know, not me. I'm not one of those. I was definitely one of the mean ones. Uh, but I found Jiu-Jitsu in Melbourne, so it's not what brought me there. Um, different kind of suffering. What I wanted to say there is I could not have even though I was very open to it, cuz I'm kind of 10 years older. I was like, hey, we train together every day. We beat the fuck out of each other every day. Let's like we have to be friends, but let's just chat. Like, you fucking had me in that guillotine for ages and I had to break my own neck to get out of there. And he'd be like, yeah, you went fucking Super Saiyan to get out of that. And I was like, sweet. So all right. Like that's All right, that's. Speaker 2: Fucking Super Saiyan tomorrow. Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll throw you the fucking through the front window tomorrow. It was just strange cuz like we great roll, so there was a lot of learning in that, but not a lot of feedback. But then you then get those some training partners who maybe it's not a competitive thing, you just share. You just go, oh, when I'm here, you know, you just establish that there's an openness there. So you say, hey, man, what what happens when you get here? Do you what do you experience this problem? And what helped me around the purple belt level is I had four or five friends, we're all at purple belt and we used to kind of get together. And I actually had bought some mats. I'd bought about 30 jigsaw mats. Used to put them down at um, originally the gym was called Cohesion, which is now the Richmond gym in its current incarnation. And so there was big carpet space, put the mats down, uh, you know, problem solve stuff and then roll. And it was so beneficial. We do it on a Sunday or Saturday or other. And it was just having people of a similar level, like there's a variety of levels there, but it was the willingness to share and and and and exchange. And it was training partners, man. I learned so much from my training partners. You know, and so I think like you were saying before about uh, someone, they don't even have to be the same rank as you, but they've just maybe they're they've got a little bit more vision. They're a little bit more eyes open. And so they see something other people don't. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Cuz you've you've you've had some pretty good training partners over the years. Not me. Um, was it was it Bean who told you about the the guard thing? What was the guard thing? Um, you kept going into his guard like he's like, man, every time we go to you're like, Speaker 2: No, that I no, that wasn't that was just he was like, we just fucking were like two balls. Speaker 1: Oh, right. Speaker 2: You know. And then it was uh, Speaker 1: Who who was it? Cuz you I remember you mentioning it to me um, that maybe it was blue belt or maybe it was purple belt where you went to roll and the person Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it was the I can't remember his name, Brazilian fella in San Diego. Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 2: He was a lovely bloke. I can't remember the name of his academy, but yeah, I I showed up at this lunchtime class and it was like a small class and uh, we just established that yeah, I was the traveling Aussie and he was like, yeah, welcome, man. And we were doing some live drills and then, you know, it was kind of like King of the Mat type thing and I stepped in and it something it was him starting on his back and then we sort of got into it and he just like initiated his guard straight away and he was like, what what are you doing, man? Like, you just let me and I was like, I was just kind of facilitating like letting you start your thing and then I was going to start defending. He's like, well, I just fucking swept you cuz like I'm pretty good at this. Like, don't let me get my guard so easy. You know, like kind of just was like, he just called me out. Like that was fucking shit. Right. You're a purple belt, you know? And I was like, yeah, well, shit. You know, and it just made me reflect on that that one comment, right? I was just like, oh, yeah, fuck, like I've just been doing that for ages, just sort of letting people start their game and then I like try to react kind of counter fight. Yeah. Um, so you know, it's funny where we learn things, right? Speaker 1: Sure. Speaker 2: But if I I reflecting on, I just had this sort of, you know, period of time where I'd been training with with a bunch of tough guys, but but Bean, you know, my mate at the time and and sort of counterpart. And he just had this fucking savage guard and I was like, yeah, I kind of always just walk into his guard. Right. And then start the round. Right. So you're going to lose every time. Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. Speaker 2: You know, but but we never had a process of like, he probably did. He was he was a very good, he always seemed to me to be quite an active learner. Whereas I wasn't. I just come in, train and then get the fuck out. Yeah. So I'm like, I probably would have helped a lot if I had have just said to him once, hey, what is it that you keep doing to me every fucking time we roll? Yeah. You know? You're like, oh, well, I get this grip and then I can just do whatever. Oh, okay. Don't let you get that grip, right? But and that's just it's so absurd in a way. It's that it's so simple. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: But that's the thing is like just taking that small amount of inquiry can fundamentally change your whole experience. Because you could have that thing where you're training with someone and just getting smashed all the time and you're like, fuck, I just get bashed all the time and I'm shit at this and I'm not getting any better. Or you have that one conversation and that stops happening. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: And then you got to deal with the next problem. Speaker 1: Of course, there's always new problems. Speaker 2: But but it's it's evolving at least. Speaker 1: It's not repeating the same mistakes, right? New mistakes. Um, yeah, I remember maybe it was I I learned a lot um, training in Brazil and different people told me different gems, which have really cemented in my mind. But um, one of them for guard retention in the ghee was you must like always control one sleeve. That was that was and I'm not saying this this is probably more a spider guard kind of centric approach because obviously there's people have really great guard retention who can just and just yeah, you know, like Lucas, back just just fucking inside out. They don't actually even need a control and you can barely pass their guard. But Speaker 2: Pure meniscus. Speaker 1: For me, meniscus guard. New on BJJ fanatics. Surgeons warning, this may result in injuries. Um, but just that one tip that was given to me made me go, oh, okay, cuz I had this bad habit. It wasn't I didn't know it was a bad habit until I got smashed by it because it was working for me. I was gripping the belt a lot in the same way, you know, you might be in butterfly guard, you get underhook and you grip the belt. I was like, the belt's so good. They can't like get away from me. You know what I mean? And so I was ended up committing to having both of my hands on the belt. And then this guy just like pumped my legs through and popped through and I was like, oh, no. I'm mounted. Speaker 2: Still got that belt though. Speaker 1: I got this belt grip, baby. He's like, why are you holding my belt? Like, what are you doing? You know, it didn't didn't fucking help you at all. I was like, oh, I was trying to control your hips. You know, hips are important, right? I heard that somewhere. Speaker 2: You can't break my grip though. Speaker 1: But it was just a funny thing and so then this one idea that was given to me and it was by a training partner, I'm always going to have a sleeve. I was like, all right, I'm not saying that that is like a gospel rule, but that caused me to change what I was doing and that actually did improve my guard retention because I was paying more attention to how they were controlling my legs or not in the ghee, obviously. It's different for everyone. And like you said before, Joe, it can be from somebody who's just, you know, it could just be from a white belt who is just really switched on and it's got nothing to do with experience in the ghee or in Jiu-Jitsu, it's just that they are are very observant. And so sometimes you get some people who are been been doing Jiu-Jitsu for 10 years and they're a grunt. They're just a fucking grinder and they're like, no, I just do these three things and fuck you and you Speaker 2: Yeah, this is how I this is how I got taught to do the guillotine in the late 80s and this is how I still do it. Speaker 1: And there's no insight there. They they don't care what you do. Just what I do and fuck you. And you're like, well, that's probably not going to be a good place for feedback necessarily. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the amount of times I've um, I don't know, like taught something and then, you know, you have like someone who is a blue or purple belt who's like watched all the DVDs. They're like, oh, you know, can I just add something to that? Yeah, um, Gordon does it like this. Yeah. Or and and you're like, sick detail. Like fucking sick, right? Speaker 1: Great. Speaker 2: So good. Um, and that's that thing of like the yeah, like your your experience is is inferior to mine. Yeah. But like you've you know this thing really well. Like you you did the research, like great. Speaker 1: It's filtered through them. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't you don't I I actually find that um, actually extremely helpful. I can't remember who I got it from, but I think I believe the saying is to like stand on the shoulders of giants. So you can see what they see. You don't have to be them. Which is if someone's done a PhD, they've studied for 10 years and they know the exact right thing about knee rehab. You don't have to have done their PhD to learn the thing. You go to the seminar and you go, so what was your insight after 10 years of studying these? They go, A B and C. You're like, thanks. Yunk. Peace. You know, like and and honestly, I've I've built a fitness career off studying the best people, gaining the key insight and then using that. Like I don't, you know what I mean? And I think that's the thing. You can you can find someone who has worked really hard on a thing. You're like, so what's the most important thing here? They tell you, you're like, gotcha. You know, I mean, that's my approach. That's that's helped me. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Um, but the the third thing I really want to go here, which is go to here is, which is super underrated, is videoing your training. The reason why I say this is almost and this isn't a narcissistic thing. This isn't about putting it on Instagram. This is actually cuz it's hard to remember what the fuck happened when you rolled. Yeah. Like generally you remember the negative things because that's kind of how the human brain is oriented because it's just like we remember bad experiences to try to not repeat them, but inevitably dwelling on them and ruminating on them can mean it happens again. Uh, especially when it comes to Jiu-Jitsu. But if your coach says to you, uh, sorry, I was watching something else. If you've recorded it, you can be like, hey coach, look at that. And they're like, oh, right. I see what you did there. Speaker 2: I'll send you the 30 minutes of rolling footage from tonight's training session and when you get home at 10:00 to have your dinner and go to bed to get up for 5:00 a.m. tomorrow, you can just watch the 30 minutes of rolling footage. Speaker 1: And if you could give me an ear mark, like if you could bookmark, you can points with comments. Speaker 2: Thanks, I really love being a coach. Speaker 1: But no, like so uh more um, I would say so, for example, we take like a like a Jeremy Paul Skinner or even some of the um, some of the higher level Jiu-Jitsu guys like a and I'm not saying not Jeremy, not that Jeremy is, but some some if you've never heard of Jeremy, he's amazing. But let's say Declan, he that a lot of different um, high-level competitors have their own um, Patreons or they do breakdowns of their students or the people they're mentoring's rolls to share the insight to others. In the same way when uh, you know, if you leave us a question, we're able to share a bit of insight around that for other folks too. Um, having some video removes the personal bias because you might even thought you had a good roll. I I fucking that arm bar at the end. I was on fire. You look back, you're like, God damn, I was getting owned. Yeah. And then they got tired and I got the arm bar. And you're like, so the truth of it was actually you had a pretty average roll, but you pulled out you pulled out the sweet arm bar. And so I think that is a kind of that is very objective. That's and then you can either reflect on it or you can talk to the coach or you can talk to anyone and at least you've got that kind of bookmarked as feedback. Speaker 2: Yeah, I I do think uh in that in that situation, it is important to declare the nature of the filming. Speaker 1: Of course. Speaker 2: Because sometimes you are like, oh shit, are we creating content right now? Like, Speaker 1: Oh, bro. Speaker 2: Is someone trying to style on me? Speaker 1: I I you know, and this and this happens, right? Like and and and Speaker 2: So I just quick thing on that. I went to Melbourne the other weekend. There was a a large athletic man. Um, just big frame guy, like a little bit of like shaved on the side, little dread bits on top. Probably 6'3, broad shoulders, athletic as fuck. He's wearing an alchemical um rash guard. I was like, interesting. And uh, he came up to me and he's like, I love your podcast. I was like, oh, what's up, man? And he was like, I bought this with your code bulletproof. And I was like, amazing. And he's like, I'm from Germany. I was like, okay. It's very random. He's like, I wanted to come to your gym and train with you. I was like, great. Well, we're here now. He's like, do you mind if I record? I was like, oh, fuck. Oh, no. Oh, this guy's about to highlight real me. Fuck. Anyway, um, I've forgotten his name, but I believe he's he's Instagram handle is like, uh, move well yoga. Like the guy moves well. He's athletic as hell. But I was like, how long have you trained? He's like, uh, 18 months, two years. I was like, okay. All right. I might I might I might be able to deal with this. Cuz I was like, good lord. And that's the thing. Sometimes people motherfuckers are going to set you up. Yeah. You know, like you know, if they've got the GoPro there and you're like, yeah. Dang. Speaker 2: The content creation team. Speaker 1: Oh, you you you it could it could live on the internet forever. Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you just want to know what you're getting into, right? Yeah. Whereas if someone's like, hey, man, I'm just filming cuz I fucking want to record my rolls, you know, so that I can fucking get better at this thing. You're like, oh, yeah, sick, go for it. Like it's just a different context. Speaker 1: Oh, 100%. And and look, I think at the end of the day, because Jiu-Jitsu is so full on, all the things that can happen, it is really important that someone, like obviously it's you it's your project, you're doing your thing, you got to take control of it. But um, really if you don't have a an unemotional way to understand what you're doing, whether you're being successful or not, it's going to be really hard to know because I think if you only roll at your gym, sometimes you think you're better than you are. You know what I mean? Cuz you're like, I always get that guy. That guy, yeah. Speaker 2: Always avoid that guy. Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy's not even that good. He's just on steroids. Just does strength training. You know, and and so we have all these biases, even though Jiu-Jitsu, you know, leave your ego at the door, all this stuff. It's not it's not true. We all we all have pride. But within that, the short circuit or the shortcut, I should say, to not repeating mistakes and getting better is just knowing like without any um, emotional or personal bias, like getting that second factor or third-party feedback is just going to help you see the truth of your activity. I believe. Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, totally agree. Speaker 1: There it is, folks. Definitely worth getting the feedback. It will help you learn faster.