THE SIMPLE MAN PODCAST Ep. 152 | We Betrayed NickyRod

Speaker 1: How you guys been? Speaker 2: Freaking any friends lately? Speaker 1: Uh Speaker 3: We betrayed you. Speaker 2: I double mic this whole fucking Speaker 1: No. All right. Speaker 2: We betrayed Nikki Rod's trust. Speaker 1: For clout. Speaker 2: He's doing very well. Speaker 1: He's doing great. So, people were concerned that we were going to pantosha you. Speaker 2: You tried to hurt me. Speaker 1: I tried to make sure Speaker 2: That you you get clear my legs. Speaker 1: That you fell and you didn't do this. Speaker 2: Explode the old. Speaker 1: Honestly, arguably, you made it worse for him. Cuz now you're holding his arm, he can't even brace himself. Speaker 2: Yeah, you just fall on your on his head. Speaker 1: On your caboose. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: On your toxic. Speaker 2: No, no. See what I did was I kicked him out and I let him be able to Speaker 1: Potentially snap his arm in half. Speaker 2: No, no, no. He's an athlete. Speaker 1: Everyone knows that I protected you from further harm. Speaker 2: Whose idea is this? Speaker 1: Ours. Speaker 2: Who came up with this? Speaker 1: It's Ethan's. Speaker 2: Ethan? Speaker 1: That's not true. You Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: No. Speaker 2: You don't Speaker 1: This is true. Speaker 2: You don't trust, you don't believe me. Speaker 1: It was your idea first? Speaker 2: It was your idea first. But I did remind you to do it. Speaker 1: To be fair. Speaker 2: We don't care about whose idea it was. Speaker 1: See, that's what the person says whose idea it was. Speaker 2: We care about whose idea it was to do that day. Speaker 1: I was going to leave. You were like, let's just do it. Speaker 2: I turned it down. Speaker 1: I did want it to be a like a rash guard ad. I thought that would have been good to combine it. And then you went with it and then you started going like, yeah, yeah, we'll do it now and then we'll wear the rash guards later. I'm like, uh, that's how we're going to do it. Okay. Speaker 2: Well, how are you going to do it as a rash guard ad? Speaker 1: We just wear the rash guards and then we Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 1: And then we trick you. Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, fuck. Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Speaker 2: That was the whole thing. Speaker 1: I know. Speaker 2: We'll do it again. Speaker 1: We'll never know. Speaker 2: Dude, we got Speaker 1: We could get Speaker 2: We we got over like 25k likes in 24 hours. Speaker 1: We could have all of that with us wearing the rash guards. That's why Speaker 2: Hey, we got to take we got to do a video. Speaker 1: We got to do it again. Speaker 2: What's a good way to advertise these rash guards, huh? Speaker 1: That would have been Speaker 2: On the podcast. Speaker 1: Buy our rash guards. All right, boom. Speaker 2: Oh, we have Simple Man Blend coffee on our store. Speaker 1: Dude, Prodigal, I love this. This is Speaker 2: I have a I've had a subscription for them for a while. Speaker 1: We've been ordering Speaker 2: Oh, you have you've had a subscription and you stole my coffee bag. Speaker 1: Stole your coffee bag? He gave me, he put it in my bag. Gave me a coffee. Speaker 2: Hey. Speaker 1: So, I handed it to you and you're like, oh, sick. Speaker 2: And that's I was fine. I'm like, all right, this one's Nikki Rod's. Speaker 1: And then I didn't get mine. Speaker 2: Yeah, you did. You have it, don't you have it right now? Speaker 1: I brought you another one and you almost lost it on the highway. Speaker 2: You brought one and you have like a million at your house. Speaker 1: No, I have three. Speaker 2: Oh. Speaker 1: And I want them. Speaker 2: Interesting. Speaker 1: Well. Speaker 2: Well, you got the Simple Man Blend. Speaker 1: And what do you have? Speaker 2: I have like three other blends. Speaker 1: Oh, they're actually single origin. 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I'm the reason why you guys have rent paid every month. Speaker 1: Oh, we're not missed. Speaker 2: Cuz it was it wasn't anyone else. Speaker 1: I yeah. Speaker 2: Let me take a look. Speaker 1: No. Speaker 2: That's fine. That's fine. Speaker 1: Um, bro, Prodigal, Prodigal is like one of the best roasters in America, bro. Speaker 2: I love them. I look forward to They're super high. making my cup at home more than I I do like getting coffee anywhere else at all. Speaker 1: 100%. Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, go to simplemanmartialarts.com and now you can click the shop tab and you see everything. Speaker 1: Look at that. Go to coffee. Go to the coffee. Look at that. Speaker 2: The coffee. Right there. Right to the coffee. And honestly, Simple Man Blend at a steal. 20 bucks. Speaker 1: For this quality coffee, that's a really good deal. Speaker 2: Why can't I click it? Oh, fuck. Malfunctions. It's malfunctioning. Speaker 1: But yeah, Prodigal, um, bro, they are masters of the roast. Master roasters. Speaker 2: Master roasters. Speaker 1: And we are master baters. Speaker 2: Dude, Simple Man we have our own blend. Speaker 1: Look how cool this looks, man. I love looking at that shit. Speaker 2: Damn. Speaker 1: Fuck, it's sick, man. Prodigal. Speaker 2: The coolest. Speaker 1: The coolest. Colombian, Ecuador, washed and anaerobic washed? What? Speaker 2: Yes, I'll tell you about that. Speaker 1: It's fucking amazing. Speaker 2: Anaerobic, it's where it ferments in an anaerobic environment, so without oxygen. Speaker 1: Oxygen. Yeah. Speaker 2: Interesting. So, we had some crazy shit happen this weekend. Obviously, guys, sorry, we're a little bit late to the party just because we released the podcast once a week. Did you guys watch the UFC fights this past weekend? Speaker 1: I did. Speaker 2: Insane. Speaker 1: You know, I saw I just saw clips. Speaker 2: I saw the whole thing. What an amazing card. Speaker 1: Can't stay up so late. Speaker 2: I was tired. Speaker 1: But you you watched it cuz you paid for the pay-per-view. Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid for it. I paid for my Wi-Fi, so I should get my fucking pay-per-view. Speaker 1: Well, also before, let's preface, that was the last pay-per-view ever. Well, not ever, but Speaker 2: Oh, cuz they're switching to Paramount. Speaker 1: So now what? Speaker 2: You go you have to get a Paramount subscription. Speaker 1: I got Paramount. Speaker 2: I have Paramount as well. Speaker 1: Crack streams it is. Speaker 2: Dude, get Paramount. Are you kidding me? It's there's phenomenal shows and it's like Speaker 1: Spend your money. Speaker 2: $15 a month. Speaker 1: I also 19 blah blah, 18 blah blah. You have Speaker 2: Landman. Speaker 1: Landman is so good. Speaker 2: Landman's so so good. Speaker 1: I've only seen Water Man. Speaker 2: Tulsa King. Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know these I don't know any of these. Speaker 2: You you seen Tulsa King? Speaker 1: Yeah, phenomenal show. Speaker 2: Bro, come on. You got to get Paramount Plus. Do you have any other you have like Netflix or whatever? Speaker 1: Netflix. Speaker 2: I told you to watch Speaker 1: Fuck Netflix. You yeah. Speaker 2: What do you mean fuck Netflix? Netflix is the shit. Speaker 1: Paramount is better actually. Speaker 2: Paramount is better. Really? Speaker 1: Yeah, cuz it has all the what what's his name? Taylor Speaker 2: Uh, Sheridan. Speaker 1: Taylor Sheridan's shows. Speaker 2: It's that great. Speaker 1: The best show writer. You watch Lioness? Speaker 2: Lioness, I did. I did. I liked it, but Speaker 1: Yeah, no way these bitches could do this stuff. Speaker 2: Bro, I I heard I heard you guys say this. Speaker 1: Dude, the fucking women is doing like 200 pull-ups, whatever, killing them. Oh, come on. Speaker 2: So funny. Speaker 1: Go cook. Speaker 2: So, Paramount, yeah, so ESPN, or not ESPN. Speaker 1: Oh, eight bucks a month. Bro, that's doable. Speaker 2: And and now you get Speaker 1: And now I can just watch without Speaker 2: All the pay-per-view all all the main events now. Speaker 1: Pretty nice. But I kind of like when it lags and you're like, ah. Speaker 2: You need to add some some artificial stress to your life. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice. It's spice. It's like another dimension to the fights, you know? Speaker 2: So, anyway, fights were insane. Holy shit. Where uh where do we start? Speaker 1: Where do we even start? Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I want to start off with Peyton and Henry Cejudo. Peyton Talbott. I don't know if you guys know who he is. Speaker 1: Bro, he hit Cejudo with his own takedown. Speaker 2: Inside trip. Speaker 1: And then he fucking Speaker 2: It's fucking crazy. Speaker 1: He do a cool flip afterwards. Speaker 2: He tried to do the cool flip and and then face planted. Speaker 1: Oh, he really? Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That's funny. That's the second time he's done it where he tries a cool flip, face plants, but it's okay. It's fine. It's okay. Like Speaker 1: You lose your pop after like a fight. Speaker 2: Well, what he said was that um he does it all the time after training, but Henry like basically uh calf kicked him a bunch and he didn't think about it. And then so he went to do it, like he didn't have enough pop to make it through the whole turn. So he just face planted. And he had a little mark from when he when he landed. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: Remember that one guy did the worm and blew his shoulder out? Speaker 2: Yes, I I don't remember who. Speaker 1: Looks like uh Dominic Reyes or some one of the weird Brazilian like heavyweights. Speaker 2: Oh, Johnny Walker. Speaker 1: Johnny Walker, yeah. Speaker 2: Oh, that guy has an IQ of a fucking snail. That guy is an idiot, bro. Have you seen him spar? Speaker 1: I mean, he was at Tristar a while ago. Speaker 2: You did you talk to him? Speaker 1: He's nuts. Yeah, yeah, he's insane. Speaker 2: Bro, the guy Speaker 1: He's really nice. He's really a good dude. Speaker 2: Okay, then never mind. Speaker 1: Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, but Speaker 2: Bro. Speaker 1: Nicest guy ever, man. Like he was being so cool to like rando day one sign-ups who are like, oh my God, Johnny Walker. He's like, yeah, want to train? They're like, okay. Like they're he was fucking super cool with everyone. Speaker 2: Uh, all right. Um, yeah. Speaker 1: Now you can still say it. Speaker 2: Him sparring this uh boxer, like uh 18-year-old or 16-year-old boxer or something like that. Here we go. Um, oh, actually, I guess it was a 19-year-old. So, Speaker 1: It's a big difference. Speaker 2: Get him. Speaker 1: Oh. Speaker 2: He's trying to kill him. Speaker 1: Just keep watching. Oh. Speaker 2: He got him. Speaker 1: He got him. Speaker 2: He was trying to swing so crazy and then gets knocked out. Speaker 1: That's funny. That's insane. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Karma. Speaker 2: Those guys get so much damage in the training room, it's like by the time they fight. Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the big thing with CTE. It's really not the fights cuz it's like you fight however many times. It's training every day and if you train like an idiot. You guys train the smartest. Speaker 2: All Elton. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 1: Zero zero one one one zero. Speaker 2: You guys are all in. Speaker 1: Oh. Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to have Elton on the podcast. I want him to explain to you guys, you know, what we're doing. Speaker 1: So disappointed in you. Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he came up he's like, bro, Damian embarrassed me. Speaker 1: You you caught me off guard too. You're like, what are you guys doing? I was like, oh, fuck. Speaker 2: And then Speaker 1: Yeah, you asked me a crazy question. What's your training like? Speaker 2: No, no, not the training. It's what's the system. Speaker 1: Ah. Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck, I'm not ready for this question. Speaker 1: I saw a little glimpse into like the post-training uh dialogue today. Speaker 2: Yeah, we call it a retrospective. Speaker 1: Retrospective. Speaker 2: So after every session, like you see us like sitting around like end of session, it's like the last 15 minutes we basically just go by each person. We uh name some things that they did well in that session and then things that they can improve on. And then Elton takes the collection of things that they that uh we have to improve on and that's how he plans the next the next day's session. But anyways, Peyton versus Henry Cejudo. Speaker 1: Mhm. Speaker 2: Dude, Peyton did so fucking well. He got way better from uh I think maybe it was was it his last fight or two fights ago? Speaker 1: Fight two fights ago. Speaker 2: Where he got wrestled by uh Barcelos, I think his name is. Yeah, who's good, but like Speaker 1: Very good. I think he's on a crazy win streak. Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's like crazy improvement from Peyton. Damn. Speaker 1: I also think, I mean, granted, Cejudo is a legend. Speaker 2: He's a legend. Speaker 1: He's in his 40s? Speaker 2: Not 40, but 38, I think. 37, 38, maybe 39. But it's like you got the shit end of Cejudo, you know? Speaker 1: Shit when he first started. Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he should have just fucking been done. Speaker 1: It's like, why? Speaker 2: Yeah, man. Olympic champ, UFC champ. Fucking go home, dude. Speaker 1: It's hard, bro. I like he's such a Speaker 2: They want to chase that feeling. Speaker 1: Yeah. Get pick up kickball. Speaker 2: Well, you know you know the thing that I I think I I realize is in order to to achieve what he's achieved, right? It's you pretty much always have to have massive self-belief. So even when you don't realize that your body is deteriorating, you're getting older, your reaction time. Speaker 1: You're still going to fight. Speaker 2: You're a fucking I exactly. And it's like it's it's a a double-edged sword cuz it's like you kind of need that to get to the top. Speaker 1: Your body will fail before that starts to go. Like you need to be convinced, okay, I can't do this anymore. But you're otherwise you're going to believe it. Until you see, all right, I'm losing, then you're going to keep Speaker 2: Or even think about like Volk. Like Volk gets knocked out two times in a row. And then I to be honest, I was like, bro, he should definitely retire. Speaker 1: A lot of people said that. Speaker 2: But he's like, I still got it. And then he goes and wins the fucking belt. Speaker 1: He still got it. He's a champ now? Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. He's a champ. He's going to fight Lopez again. Which is kind of crazy, but I think it's a sixth fight. Speaker 1: Who else is there to fight? Speaker 2: Lerone Murphy's on Speaker 1: Who did he win the belt from? Speaker 2: Oh. He It was vacated. Uh Ilia vacated, so then Diego Lopez and Volk fought for the belt. Speaker 1: And this is the first time they fought. Speaker 2: They they fought already. He beat Diego. Speaker 1: No, no, no. Speaker 2: No, no. Volk won. Speaker 1: So Volk beat Diego twice. Speaker 2: No, no. Speaker 1: Once. Volk beat Diego after the belt was vacated by Ilia. And then they're going to fight again uh when Speaker 2: January? Uh somewhere sometime in the beginning of of 2026. Honestly, it was pretty dominant in my opinion from Volk. Speaker 1: Volk pretty much. It was not like he wasn't like he was outclassed. Like Lopez is good. Speaker 2: He was a good fight. Speaker 1: Who's Ilia going to fight next? Speaker 2: Islam, no? Oh, no, no, no. Um, fucking Speaker 1: Is Islam up, right? Speaker 2: Paddy? Is it Paddy? Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything signed, but I want to see him fight back. Speaker 2: I think basically it's a title eliminator actually, I think. Speaker 1: Or Arman. Speaker 2: It's it's Paddy versus um Gaethje. Speaker 1: Arman's good though. Speaker 2: Arman's good, but he he fucked up where he pulled out the day of the fight. Speaker 1: Oh, that's right there. Speaker 2: Cuz of his back. So so Dana's basically like, yeah, you're not you got to earn it back or whatever. Speaker 1: Run way back up. Speaker 2: Which I kind of get, man. People are kind of giving Dana shit, but it's like you have months of lead up, all this promotion to actually build your brand and actually you get more money from that. Speaker 1: Yeah, like you get a lot of residual. Speaker 2: And then the day of you you pull out. Not the day before, not a couple days before. Speaker 1: But what what exactly happened? Speaker 2: He says that his back hurt. Speaker 1: But like how how did his back hurt? Like he woke up and was like, ah, like how does that Speaker 2: I don't know. Speaker 1: He slept on a Speaker 2: You ever see him do his his neck things? Speaker 1: I've seen it. Yeah, yeah, his fucking twisty. Speaker 2: I feel like it has to be that. Speaker 1: I saw a comedian going like like, oh, he pulled out cuz his back hurt. So yeah, he's doing fucking 360s on the twisty machine. What do you expect? I think actually Derek I I was listening to Derek Moreplates on uh Joe and I think Derek said he's like, well, yeah, his back hurt. He's doing fucking 360s on the spine twisty. What do you expect? It's just funny the way he just put it so simply. I mean, Speaker 2: Bro. Speaker 1: When I look at him, I'm like, what the fuck is that? But he's super mobile, I guess. Speaker 2: I should do that, bro. I'd fucking I'd be good at that machine. Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you need any more of it, to be honest. Speaker 2: I need more. Speaker 1: You're you're twisty enough. Speaker 2: Um. Speaker 1: I'm more twisty. Speaker 2: Yeah, so title eliminator, Gaethje versus Paddy Pimblett. Speaker 1: I said go. Speaker 2: I go Paddy for one. I I think I think Paddy, to be honest. Speaker 1: I go Paddy, yeah, I think. Speaker 2: But I think Gaethje has a couple big takedowns, maybe some good shots. Speaker 1: He doesn't really shoot. He doesn't really shoot too much. Speaker 2: I I'll maybe not. Speaker 1: I think he's going to try and just knock him out. Speaker 2: Gets behind him, yeah. The thing is I think Paddy's fucking big. I think he could probably sub Gaethje, I'd imagine. Speaker 1: He could sub him, yeah. Speaker 2: The thing is Paddy hasn't really been tested too too too much. Speaker 1: He uh biggest test was Bobby Green and then he smoked him. Speaker 2: The thing is Paddy like Bobby Green's not like amazing, you know. Speaker 1: Chandler. Speaker 2: Chandler was fucking what? O and five in the UFC or something like that. Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Speaker 2: He's one and five. Speaker 1: Chandler win a UFC fight? What? Speaker 2: Chandler never won. Speaker 1: I think he beat Tony Ferguson and then pretty much lost Speaker 2: He fucked up. Speaker 1: Shows you the level between fucking Hooker versus Hooker. Speaker 2: Maybe I fucked up. Speaker 1: Shows you the level between one or Bellator and UFC. Speaker 2: Yeah, Chandler was top dog in Bellator, but he did he's had Speaker 1: Askren too, bro. He defended the title like fucking 10 times. Speaker 2: Until uh Super Necessary came along. Speaker 1: Yeah. Fuck. Speaker 2: No, Chandler KO'd Hooker. Speaker 1: He was never champ either, right? Speaker 2: No, Ferguson. Speaker 1: I think. Speaker 2: He he was never champ, right? Uh Super Necessary. Speaker 1: Who's Super Necessary? Speaker 2: No, uh what's his name? Yeah, yeah. So um he is uh two and five in the UFC. Speaker 1: So Hooker and uh Ferguson. Speaker 2: That is a bad record, but Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's still exciting to watch, bro. Hey. Speaker 2: He beat Dan Hooker, then lost to Speaker 1: He beat Hooker? Speaker 2: Uh round one TKO. Then Charles Oliveira lost, Justin Gaethje lost, beat Tony Ferguson, then lost to Dustin Poirier, lost to Charles again, lost to Paddy Pimblett. Speaker 1: Those are hard fights. Speaker 2: It's all crazy fights, like top five. Speaker 1: He's I I always wonder cuz it's like, yeah, definitely the UFC the level in the UFC is is definitely top. Speaker 2: World. Speaker 1: Yeah, in the world. I just wonder though it's like when the guys come over to the UFC, is it really the the skill discrepancy is that big or did they already meet their like go through their peak in you know, in Bellator and now they're on their way down and then they have to fight top dogs again. Speaker 2: They're all on their way down. Speaker 1: Who else who who is like another person who could uh be a like a Speaker 2: Paddy was the fucking Speaker 1: Well, Ridder just went went over. How old's Ridder? Early mid-20s? Speaker 2: Yeah, Ridder is not uh that's a that's a good argument against that. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 2: Well, the counter to that was I think Ridder fought like five times in in a calendar year or something like that. It's like I think he was just kind of overworked. Speaker 1: I I don't know. Maybe I'm just making shit up. Speaker 2: Grasping at straws, you are. Speaker 1: I mean, Ridder was the champ at one for a while, right? Speaker 2: I think uh he I mean phenomenal. He was like, yeah, 21 and three at one. Well, uh in one, it was seven and two in one, but Speaker 1: Okay. And now he's 21 and three, so he lost one. Oh, he only lost to Brendan Allen in the UFC, huh? Speaker 2: Brendan Allen, yeah. Speaker 1: Which just trained with us. Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, he just came in. How was that? That's sick. Bro, so Brendan Allen came in and uh, you know, cuz they were doing a 10:00 AM session and that's uh when I have the MMA session. So I come in the back, no one's really there. And I see this guy. Speaker 1: I come in the back. Speaker 2: I see a guy pull up in a lime scooter with like his hoodie up all tight and it's like, you know, we have crackheads around, whatever. Not many of them are driving lime scooters, but you know, I'm just like, oh, like who is this guy? But then I see like he has like some grappling stuff on. And I honestly thought it was just like a guy that was early to Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, to 12 or something. Speaker 2: To 12 or something, yeah. So I come out and I'm like, hey, hey, what's up? Give him a fist bump. I'm like, what's up, bro? And then um I was like, uh I couldn't recognize him. Speaker 1: Yeah, he had his hoodie. Speaker 2: He had his hoodie all and he's like looking at me like with a big smile. I was like, bro, like good to see you again. And I was like, fuck, have we met, man? He's like, it's been a long time. He's like, over a year and a half. He's like, uh I've I've been taking time off. I didn't even I could not put it together. Speaker 1: Trying to deduce like Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, what who the fuck is this guy? And then um I uh I get I he was like, I'm going to train with with Nikki Rod, whatever. I was like, oh, sick. Cool. He'll be in a couple minutes. So I let him in. And then um I'm getting ready and shit. And then someone's like, oh, is that Brendan Allen? And then I look at him and I see his tattoo and I was like, oh, fuck, what the hell? Yeah, bro. What's what's going on, man? Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: But I was like, I felt so cold cuz in the beginning, I thought he was a complete stranger. I was like, like, who are you? Speaker 1: How was uh training with him? Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun. Speaker 1: Good. Yeah, good training. How big is he? Speaker 2: I think he's 225. Speaker 1: Damn. Speaker 2: You think you'd beat him in a fight? Speaker 1: In a jiu-jitsu uh uh chess match? Speaker 2: In the game of wits. Speaker 1: The game of fisty cuffs. Speaker 2: This is sports. Yeah. Uh, wait, Speaker 1: Dude, no jiu-jitsu guy is going in there and and Speaker 2: Except me, dog. Speaker 1: Fucking top 10. Speaker 2: Well, you're a fighter now. Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fighter. You're right, you're right. Speaker 2: That that's my that's when Ethan uh mounts me and holds me in mount, I'm like, I'm I'm an MMA fighter. It don't matter. Speaker 1: Uh, wait, Speaker 2: I pull guard. Fuck that. Speaker 1: That is way easier. Jesus Christ. Speaker 2: Then wrestling. Yeah. Stand up like a man, Ethan. Speaker 1: Come down into my legs. Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, I was like, you want to train? He's like, yeah. I was like, oh, this is so gay. I get it now. Yeah, yeah. Fucking. Speaker 1: Uh, okay, so so Speaker 2: I said you got I sent you guys a reel about jiu-jitsu. Speaker 1: We saw it. We watched it. We saw the alien one too. Speaker 2: Yes. That's funny. Speaker 1: Another planet. Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think I saw that one. Speaker 1: They're watching this. Speaker 2: Oh, he made it stop. So, Peyton did very well with Cejudo, took him down multiple times. Speaker 1: Cejudo retired. Speaker 2: Cejudo retired. Honestly, it was Speaker 1: What? Again? Speaker 2: Yeah, but once and for all, it seems like. Speaker 1: Second for all. Speaker 2: It's it's always sad. Speaker 1: Second for all. Yes. Speaker 2: Second for all. It's kind of sad seeing like a guy who's, you know, done as much as he's done just call it. Speaker 1: Honestly, I would even argue that he is combat sports goat. Like the goat. Speaker 2: I Yeah. Olympic champ and double two weight class. He was like early two weight class champ. Speaker 1: He just he just lighter. So he doesn't get as much respect. Speaker 2: That's the thing. Yeah. And also like they kind of made him to be a villain like triple cringe or Speaker 1: But he just does it's just entertaining. Like everyone watches it. He's like, oh, oh, I don't like he does this and that. Like it's fucking Speaker 2: Yeah. What he did in in uh his competitive career is insane. Dude, and he fought dogs. Like when when I was watching the old uh or they did like a highlight of him coming up. I was like, bro, I forgot that you fought so many beasts and just like Speaker 1: Mighty, right? Speaker 2: He fought Mighty twice. Mighty knocked him out the first time, but Speaker 1: Oh, fuck. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Then he he won the second one. Speaker 1: He won the decision. Speaker 2: He won the decision, yeah, next time. Uh that was right before Mighty Mouse went to one and they kind of like killed or there was like no one else in 125. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: There was that, but yeah, it was kind of like fucking Speaker 1: It's insane. He uh also, I feel like it's really impressive to win two weight classes at that weight. It's impressive at any weight, but that's a bigger ratio of your like from 125 to 135 is well, I guess it's it's it's over 10%. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's over. But is it uh 145 Speaker 1: Actually not over. Speaker 2: Cuz then they yeah, 145, 155. Speaker 1: It is a bigger bigger percentage. Speaker 2: Yeah, but then like 155 to 170 is a bigger Speaker 1: Oh, maybe that. Speaker 2: Even it out or something. Speaker 1: That does even it out. Speaker 2: So maybe that does. Well, I would say that the skill discrepancy in the lower weight classes is like it's fucking tough, man. Speaker 1: Skills are yeah. Speaker 2: I think so. Speaker 1: Are you on the Lucys? Speaker 2: Um, back on the Lucys a little bit. Nikki Rod's a bad influence. Also, I mean, I do I do Speaker 1: You start weight cutting. Speaker 2: That's as soon as I started weight cutting, I was like, all right, come on. I'm so hungry. I hungry. I hungry. Speaker 1: I hungry my tummy. Speaker 2: I need a I don't know. Speaker 1: Do it. Do it. Do it. Speaker 2: Nah. I like the exact state that I'm in. No up, no down. So, Liam puts one in his mouth. Liam puts one in his mouth like awkwardly and then Sal's like, you want to know a cool way of doing it? And Liam's like, no, no, I don't want a cool way of doing it. And Sal Sal's like, all right, keep doing it like this. Speaker 1: So, there was that and then Marab and Peter was a sick fight. They're going they're going to have to give Marab an immediate rematch. Speaker 2: Yeah, really. Speaker 1: Like, oh, really? Was he that dominant? Speaker 2: Well, it was it was a close fight. Peter definitely like won the fight fair and square. Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was close. Speaker 2: Really? Well, it was it was a clear who won, but it wasn't like just a complete ass whooping in my opinion. Speaker 1: It was a clear who won. Speaker 2: No, but it was like a It was clear that Peter won like, you know. Speaker 1: Very obviously unanimous, yeah. Speaker 2: But the thing is this is his fourth title defense in one year. Speaker 1: Yeah, he deserves that. Speaker 2: He he fucking deserves it. Speaker 1: I yeah. Speaker 2: Think about weight cutting four times to 135. Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying he doesn't deserve. I'm just saying it was like Speaker 2: Peter definitely won. Speaker 1: Bro, I I never I did not think that someone could do that to Marab now. I thought like Marab would would be unstoppable for like a solid another whole year, like all 2026 and then someone's going to figure it out, but Peter because the he he subbed Peter the first time they fought? Speaker 2: No, no, no. It was he just absolutely destroyed him. Speaker 1: He didn't guillotine Peter, yeah. Speaker 2: No, no, he didn't guillotine Peter. Oh, no. He guillotine Sean. Speaker 1: He didn't guillotine seven shows, seven to win. Speaker 2: 100 figures. Oh, yeah, yeah. The thing is with champ, I'd imagine he's making like bare minimum just for the fight like $2 million, over $2 million. Speaker 1: Just a show. Speaker 2: And then cuz there's pay-per-view and shit like that. So it's like he's getting like probably 2.5, something like that. You fight fucking four times. And that's just for fighting. Not including any of these other brand deals and sponsorship deals that he has. Speaker 1: Yeah, unanimous. Speaker 2: So um, they unanimous each other. But the thing is is I wonder I don't want to chalk it up to that, but it's like weight cuts take a huge toll on your body. Let the man recover. What's like a normal amount of times to fight per year? To be honest, like not overdoing it, but not being inactive. I think twice. Wow, twice. Cuz you're the champ, I think. Speaker 1: Yeah, but you need time to get better and improve too, you know what I mean? Speaker 2: That's the thing. It's like let him let him let his body recover. Let his skills develop and fight twice. Speaker 1: You need time to recover, develop. Speaker 2: Imagine fighting four times. That's you're after your fight, you're immediately going back into exactly. It's Speaker 1: It also kind of waters down your like like your appearance, your I don't know, wow factor, you know, it's like, oh, he he's fighting again. That's sick, but it's not like no one has time to be like, when's he going to fight again, you know, it's like Speaker 2: His fight wasn't promoted too much. Speaker 1: I don't know. Speaker 2: It feels to me like he just fucking fought O'Malley. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Like he's right away. Speaker 2: That was his last fight before Peter? Speaker 1: No, no, no. He fought uh Wrestler. Dude, I I no, Cory, Cory Sandhagen was his last one. Speaker 2: Wow, see. Like he fights so many times. I think after he he beat Sean O'Malley then twice. Yeah, then had to fight Umar. Then Cory and then Peter. Like the motherfucker just goes active. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Like Behring, Behring was at one point was fighting like every week. But I can see it too. It's like if imagine you're getting fucking 2.5 million, you just you fight way more times. Speaker 1: I'll be there. Bro, he's sign me up. Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Speaker 1: Making $10 million pretty much just from Speaker 2: And you only got a few years left of being Yeah, yeah. Make that shit, boy. Speaker 1: Fuck O'Malley. O'Malley was on the prelims nowadays, right? Something like that. Speaker 2: No. Prelims. No, but he's on the main cards though. He's for yeah, for sure main card. I mean, he can still headline a card if he if it wasn't like, you know. Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't bro. Speaker 2: I mean, he's still like Speaker 1: He's fighting Song. Speaker 2: Yeah. Song. What the the caption? He goes, he goes, uh I don't beat my dong, but I'll beat your dong. Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hilarious. I don't beat my dong, but I'll beat your dong. Speaker 2: That's so funny. Hilarious. How do you guys think that goes? Speaker 1: I think you spend the most time with uh your dong. Speaker 2: With Song, but it's been it's been a long time now. It's been maybe two two years. Speaker 1: I touched your dong. Speaker 2: I touched you dong. Speaker 1: You know your dong very well. Speaker 2: I do. I know your dong in and out. I've been on the back of your dong, on top of your dong. Speaker 1: In and out of your dong. Your dong's in. Speaker 2: I punched your dong. I punched your dong. I got punched by your dong. Speaker 1: Trying to grapple your dong. Speaker 2: Yeah. Like trying to sing my song to your dong. It's tough, man. It can go either way cuz they're both really good strikers, but they're two totally different style of strikers. Like Song is more of a uh like kind of more of a flat-footed boxing style with heavy hands. And Sean still has heavy hands too, but he uses a lot more movement and uh Speaker 1: Who's better grappler, you think? Speaker 2: Your dong, I'd imagine. I I would imagine, yeah, your dong would be a better grappler. Speaker 1: He's Japanese? Speaker 2: He's Chinese, I think. Japanese. But uh he he uh he has some tricks. He has a decent guillotine just cuz he comes from like the Alpha Male guys. The Alpha Male guys actually have good guillotines. But he's not like a submission artist, you know, I'd imagine that Sean should have decent submissions. He's training with a like, you know, Tainho, Agusta Mendez. So he should he should have like jiu-jitsu. Speaker 1: He just hasn't shown it yet, you know, as far as I know. Speaker 2: That's the thing. Speaker 1: Do you know who's high level for the time? Mendez brother. Speaker 2: You've been watching them? Speaker 1: Rafa. Speaker 2: Yeah, they were the shit. Bro, their leg locks are 50/50. I was like, dude, back then this was magic. Yeah, it was like no one know what what the fuck was going on. Speaker 1: I would watch those guys like at when I was in Montreal. Just those and uh Marcelo and I'd be like, I if I could just copy what these motherfuckers do. Speaker 2: Dude, at the time they were the best. I mean, by far. Yeah. You ever see their highlight in the ghee in when they competed in Japan or something? Speaker 1: I've never watched any ghee. Speaker 2: Really? Yeah, it looks good. Yeah, they're just like beautiful movements. That's crazy. Yeah. I don't watch any ghee. Oh, fuck. Guys, not to make everything about me. I have a fight. Oh. Everything's about you all the time, huh? Sorry. Jesus. Bro, fighting. Fucking go. Speaker 1: Friday, February. Speaker 2: Boom. Friday, February 6th. Speaker 1: Boom. Friday, February. Speaker 2: February 6th. This guy's going to come come out and corner me. Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, keep doing it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it well. Speaker 2: Been a long, been a been a while. Been over a fucking year. Speaker 1: Over a year. Jesus Christ. Speaker 2: You had your surge. Speaker 1: And now you're fucking ready to splurge. Speaker 2: Stronger than ever. Speaker 1: Now we're back. Speaker 2: Stronger than ever. Speaker 1: I think that was a good decision on by your part. Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a point where I was debating no surgery, just try to let the body heal. Speaker 1: I think it's good you saw that one story of the one person. I don't need to name him, but whose elbow still fucks up now. Speaker 2: He's like, I wish I got it. Yeah. Yeah, it's for the best cuz you're good now. You're fine now. Speaker 1: Hey, now I'm going to make money now cuz you boy. Speaker 2: Let's go. You know, I was about to uh, yeah, right. It was a fucking, guys, Jesse, you know, since I got hurt from the surgery, I was basically bedridden, not able to do anything and that's why we're able to monetize the podcast was because Speaker 1: Your injury was like, I'm going to figure this out. Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, come on, we're going to make money with this thing. And now we do. Speaker 1: Take him out again. We'll be on the moon. Speaker 2: So, there was a point in time before my last fight cuz I got hurt two weeks before the fight. It was like my homecoming fight, sold a shit ton of tickets. Speaker 1: That was insane. Speaker 2: Where I was still my if like if I held my arm out, it was like dangling. I was like, I could beat him with one hand. I was like, let me fucking go out there. Speaker 1: That's terrible. Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. And then Speaker 1: You would just get your arm mangled. It would be so sick. Speaker 2: I think I would win though. Speaker 1: You think you could have you fuck up all these guys with one limb. Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's I think I would. I just don't think it'd be good for my health. Speaker 1: No. You're going to get surgery anyway. You should have done it. Speaker 2: No, fuck that. Speaker 1: Regret it. Regret it. Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's fucking crazy. Speaker 1: Whenever you compete, you always want to give yourself the best odds. Speaker 2: Yeah. But then it's no, no, no. It's advantage play. You always give yourself the And Mayweather would make his opponents do the dumbest shit. Like he like chooses a specific weight, specific date. He would have everything in his favor. Speaker 1: Mayweather, yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely everything in his favor. Speaker 1: Specific lighting. Speaker 2: I that's why I think in in MMA, it's like there's it's like a it's still a gamble, right? Everyone has a puncher's chance. So it's like you really want to line everything up to your favor. So when you roll the dice, everything's on, you know, you have the best. Speaker 1: You're rolling those dice. Speaker 2: You're rolling those dice. Yeah. And straight V, boy. I know. We got to go out to Vegas soon. Speaker 1: Uh, Worlds. Well, wait, just before that and WNO. Uh, Pantoja. Damn. Speaker 2: Oh, man. That's terrible. Dude, I feel so bad for him. Yeah, that sucks, man. His family's there, kids are there. They're like Speaker 1: I've been the arm dog. Speaker 2: Bro. Yeah, you got to learn how to break fall. I was that almost happened to you. But I saved you. No, he's an athlete. He's an athlete. Thanks to me. I know this shit is boy. I arguably you could have heard him more. No. Cuz he can't he had no ability to break fall. Speaker 1: We had an unbreakable bond and uh See how unbreakable it is? We're still here. And we're trust. Yeah. The trust. Speaker 2: No, you could the uh Sergio is our replacement videographer and editor today. We were going to have him throw a dildo at you and we said no. Speaker 1: We saved you. We said no. We said no. Speaker 2: I turned it down. Speaker 1: I'm we're going to wage war. Speaker 2: I don't want to wage war. Speaker 1: It's done already. Speaker 2: Now I'm going to be looking over my shoulder. Speaker 1: I fucking uh I scare Liam all the time. And uh the other day in the parking garage, I was like, I park and I hear his car pull into the garage. I hear his engine start driving. I'm like, all right, I'm hiding. I fucking hide behind a car for like 20 minutes, bro. I'm like, fucking this guy's just on his phone scrolling in his car. I'm like, this fucking guy. So I start texting him like, hey, bro, I need you to go inside. Like something something is happening. Anyway, finally fucking reads it, goes in, scared me like, ah, jumps like does like a Mario double jump. It's fucking hilarious. Speaker 2: You know who's easily scareable? Action Jackson. Really? Little Jackson, bro. Yeah. Speaker 1: What's his reaction though? He's punch on the face. Speaker 2: No, the thing is, it's never violence. It's never fight. Like it's always flight. That's literally his reaction. Like uh there was one time where where is he? He's in Vegas actually. Oh, okay, okay. In Vegas, uh going out for Worlds, UFC BJJ and then also gets some training there. No, no, just cuz guys are competing there. So there's UFC BJJ this weekend. Oh, fuck. Is it today or tomorrow? It might be today. Thursday. No, Thursday. It's today. It's today. It's today. UFC BJJ is today. Speaker 1: Today's Thursday. Speaker 2: Today's Thursday. Let me take a look. But anyways, just to just to I fucking threw us off the rails there. Pantoja. Oh, fuck. Are they on now? Two hour time difference, right? Could be. There's switching. Two hours. In two hours, it's it's on. In two hours. But isn't it a two-hour time difference? Yeah. So it's so it's at So it's either it's either now or in four hours. No, it's in two hours. So it's at seven. Our time or their time? It starts at five their time. So is that our time or their time? No, their They're two hours behind right now. It's You know what I'm saying? So Pantoja. Yeah, yeah. He knows exactly what you're saying. Well, Pantoja. I think I'm going to Oklahoma. When? And where? And why? With who? OSU wrestling. OSU wrestling. Oh, what? When? When? We we sprouted this idea. Wait, you're going to? Yeah, we were talking about this. When the fuck where was I know we had this, but you didn't tell me. You keep me in the loop. No, this is you being in the loop. Oh. You guys always do this. You guys always do this. It's looking like January 12th to 16th. Okay. January. Oh, really? Yes. My mom gets here January like 20th or something. Okay. That's perfect. We'll be back. So, fuck yeah. Real quick. Pantoja. Tell tell a couple of guys. We'll pick pick carefully. Little crew. So Pantoja. Bro, why did that happen? Like he got his he threw a kick, it got caught and he so comfortable right now. Yeah, that looks great. So, Joshua Van. Joshua Van is a fighter from Houston. Like came up through Fury, won I think he might have been champ in Fury and then goes to the UFC. Looks like you. Yeah, every time he fights, people are like, bro, for a split second, I thought you were fighting. I'm like, no, not yet. But anyways, he's only been fighting for five years. Like he he made his amateur debut five years ago. And is now the champ. That's and UFC champ. But the thing that is crazy to me, or not crazy, but he's going to get exposed because you can't develop high-level grappling in five years. If if you're an MMA fighter, my face. If you're a fighter. And granted, you did, but you still had wrestling background. But I yeah, yeah. And I only trained one thing. That's the thing. Yeah. It's like being an MMA fighter, you you I just don't believe it, you know, to get high-level grappling. So Pantoja. But you can you can do high-level like defense. Scramble. You could try. Counter wrestling. Anti-wrestling. Yeah, I did think uh if the fight were to go the distance, eventually he would have got subbed, I think. I actually thought Pantoja was going to sub him first round. Oh, yeah, you did. You said this. I thought so. And then so Pantoja came out crazy like he usually does. You know, throws a head kick, it gets caught and then Josh kind of just like throws him a little bit, so he extends his arm and then completely uh, you know, dislocates his his arm. Like don't you think that's happened to him in training? Like It's Pifer, bro. Pifer got fucked up like that too. Well, I think uh I don't think Pifer was fully extended, but Do you guys think it has to do with the fact that your wrist is kind of locked in a bit from your uh with the glove? Cuz you can't like bend and turn your elbow as much. He had some damage, bro. Cuz that's what I was saying. Like like this way and not like I was saying this way. So you guys think there was pre I think he might have pre-existed. When you guys rip ass? I got to poop. You solely pooping? Dude. Why are you sitting like one of my French girls? Can we I'm calling you. Can you can you open up the the door, please? Don't be gay, bro. Fucking breathe. Bro. Suck it in, homo. Dog. This is my prank. This is my prank. The gas chamber. You remember the the reel I sent you with the Oh. Ah, he's hanging. The fart bag at the wedding. Fart bag at the wedding? Oh, fart spray, fart spray. Fart spray. Fart spray. Fart spray. Fart spray at their wedding. Dude, did you not see that? It's okay, it's fine. It's okay, yeah. So, I think if if your cat swaps me, I'm No, no. He only um he only swipes if you if you fuck with him, but they'll just say hi. So, I think there was some you know, injury. Is it feline? 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