Interviews

BJJ black belt and entrepreneur Elliott Bayev on the ability to test new ideas in jiu-jitsu, how the basics change over time, how to use jiu-jitsu in sales and running a business, and much more. Follow Elliott on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/elliottbayev/. And you can find me (Stephan) on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/stephan_kesting/ and on Twitter at https://twitter.com/StephanKesting Cheers! Stephan

On this episode, Chewy and Eugene answer the question of whether you should get in shape before starting BJJ. We also do a live Q&A: Can you train BJJ with asthma? Thoughts on Gracie University if you don't have a nearby school to train at. How to deal with losing a tournament and seeing your losses posted on social media. How to improve your top game and retaining top position in BJJ as a smaller practitioner Recommendations on healthy food. Rehab for the shoulder. Thoughts on grappling dummies. Has Chewy ever called out a fake BJJ black belt? Thanks to our podcast sponsors: Charlotte's Web CBD. Head over to https://bit.ly/31HEWoT and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Epic Roll BJJ. Check out https://www.epicrollbjj.com and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Check out exclusive podcast interviews and conversations, videos, and tons more at https://www.patreon.com/thechewjitsupodcast

This week, Steve and Matt are joined by multi-time world champion Emily Kwok. Having studied directly with Marcelo Garcia and Josh Waitzkin, Emily joins us to share her expertise on the study of peak performance. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Kaizen [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/kaizen/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/kaizen/)- Flow [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/flow/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/flow/)- Stress and Recovery [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/stress-and-recovery/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/stress-and-recovery/)- Shuhari [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/shuhari/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/shuhari/)- Raise the Level in the Room [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/raise-the-level-in-the-room/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/raise-the-level-in-the-room/)- Feedback Loop [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/feedback-loop/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/feedback-loop/)- Extreme Ownership [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/extreme-ownership/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/extreme-ownership/)- Investing in Loss [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/investing-in-loss/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/investing-in-loss/)- Prevention Over Cure [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/prevention-over-cure/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/prevention-over-cure/)- Beginner's Mind [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beginners-mind/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beginners-mind/)- Incremental Learning [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/incremental-learning/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/incremental-learning/)- Cognitive Load [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/cognitive-load/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/cognitive-load/)- Systematic Abandonment [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/systematic-abandonment/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/systematic-abandonment/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

Chris Brennan joins the show to tell his powerful story of overcoming addiction and street life to become an American pioneer in MMA. He talks about the very early days of MMA in the US and fighting in Brazil and Japan. He also gives insight on the Kimura

Jules Evans studies the history of ideas and was the perfect person to help me understand the abundance of insane conspiracy theories on BOTH sides of the political spectrum right now. We discuss why there are so many lizard people in tunnels, why many Nazi leaders held new age beliefs, how BLM resembles a religion, and why BJJ is such a fertile breeding ground for conspiracy thinking in 2020 and 2021. Follow Jules on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/julesthephilosopher/ and on Medium where he posts many thoughtful and well researched articles: https://julesevans.medium.com/

This week, Steve and Matt are joined by Nelson Puentes, the co-founder of Inverted Gear. Nelson shares the story of the business and is generous with advice to other entrepreneurs who are looking to get started. We discuss the importance of branding, the joy of logistics, and how to pivot during adversity. Oh...and we talk about short shorts. **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

Kody Steele joins the show to talk about transitioning from Wrestling to BJJ, developing a take down game and diet and conditioning. He also talks about overcoming shyness, his future ambitions in MMA and he also reveals his abilities as a cat whisperer!

Today Josh gets to sit down with the host of the Grappling Central Podcast, Ryan Ford. Ryan is the brown belt who has probably gotten to conversate with more high level black belts than anyone on earth! Getting to hear his opinions is fun and educational. Some other topics of the episode are: - Should you "make" your kids train jiu-jitsu - Steroid use in BJJ - Car rides with Dan Severn - Professional Wrestling - Old school Pride Fights

Chewy and Eugene are joined by BJJ black belt Robert Drysdale to discuss his new book, "Opening Closed Guard: The Origins of Jiu-Jitsu In Brazil." Robert discusses his start in Jiu-Jitsu, why Jiu-Jitsu was so addictive, the reason for creating the book "Opening Closed Guard: The History of BJJ" and the documentary on the history of Jiu-Jitsu, his thoughts on the most important member of the Gracie family, the innovation and evolution of Jiu-Jitsu, the idea of "American Jiu-Jitsu," why there is longevity in Jiu-Jitsu, his thoughts on Kosen Judo and Japanese culture, how Robert's gym has changed over the years, some of Robert's favorite interviews from the documentary, the moments that stood out the most, and much more. Pick up a copy of the book: *Opening Closed Guard: The Origins of Jiu-Jitsu In Brazil: The Story Behind The Film* *https://www.closedguardfilm.com/product/opening-closed-guard-book-by-robert-drysdale/* Thanks to our podcast sponsors: Charlotte's Web CBD. Head over to https://bit.ly/31HEWoT and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Epic Roll BJJ. Check out https://www.epicrollbjj.com and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. Check out exclusive podcast interviews and conversations, videos, and tons more at https://www.patreon.com/thechewjitsupodcast

This week, Steve is joined again by Robert Degle. Robert shares his experience with information literacy, and how grapplers can answer the questions: how do I know this technique is a good technique? And what makes a technique good, anyway? Due to incorrect audio settings in this episode, it sounds like Steve is yelling through a megaphone. We did our best to clean up the audio, but it's still noticeable. Sorry about this. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Scientific Method [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/scientific-method/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/scientific-method/)- Do What Works [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/do-what-works/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/do-what-works/)- Habits Over Results [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/)- Win Conditions [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/win-conditions/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/win-conditions/)- Resulting Fallacy [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/resulting/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/resulting/)- Idea Communism [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/idea-communism/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/idea-communism/)- First Principles [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/first-principles/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/first-principles/)- Self-Competition [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/self-competition/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/self-competition/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

Can you learn Jiu-Jitsu on Youtube? Of Course! But how do you do it? How do you know what you're watching even works? Chewjitsu aka NIck Albin weighs in on this topic. Plus, he gives an incredible amount of input on dealing with the struggles of having too many options in BJJ. Chewy, as always, offers incredible insight on these topics and more and breaks them down into easily understandable bits that even Josh(@thejoshmckinney) can understand!

Andre Terencio returns to talk about school ownership, building a strong curriculum, his BJJ for law enforcement program, heel hooks in the IBJJF and social projects in Brazil. He also gives advice for anyone struggling with weight management.

This week, Steve is joined by the internet's favorite professor, Stephan Kesting. We have a post-mortem on the disastrous year that was 2020, discuss how we can develop a resilient mindset, and how the BJJ community can heal and recover in 2021. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Raise the Level in the Room [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/raise-the-level-in-the-room/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/raise-the-level-in-the-room/)- Train With Purpose [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/)- Habits Over Results [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/)- Investing in Loss [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/investing-in-loss/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/investing-in-loss/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

Daniel Goldberg is a medical historian, a public health ethicist, a lawyer and has practiced BJJ for 8 years. It was great to have him on the podcast to talk about the course of the Covid-19 pandemic and when we might be able to get back to normal. 00:50 - Introduction to Daniel Goldberg 06:09 - On the difficulty of persuading the unpersuadable 08:02 - How the current pandemic has many historical precedents 12:20 - Vaccine distribution in the USA 19:30 - What happens when everyone make individual choices during a pandemic 22:30 - Why have black, indigenous and latino communities have been rampaged with the virus? 27:45 - Covid-19 vs the Spanish flu 36:15 - Conspiracy theories about Covid-19 and where does distrust of experts come from 44:40 - How to talk to a covid denialist 1:00:20 - Politicians jumping to the front of the vaccination line 1:05:20 - Long term effects of Covid-19 1:12:30 - The BJJ community and Covid-19 1:17:10 - Would paying people to stay home really have worked? 1:25:00 - When might we all return to jiu-jitsu?

In the first Q&A of the year Josh(@thejoshmckinney) talks about how he finished the year sick and in quarantine. Other topics: What should each belt know? Are there dumb questions in Jiu-Jitsu? What are Josh's New Years Resolutions? Check Out Josh's Free Ebook "Simplifying Jiu-Jitsu": [https://www.simplifyingjiujitsu.com/opt-in](https://www.simplifyingjiujitsu.com/opt-in)

Shawn joins the show for the 3rd time to talk about moving from LA, opening a new academy on the east coast, maintaining skills, patience while rolling and running an apparel brand. He also gives technical insight to the Williams guard and leg pummeling!

This week, Steve and Matt are joined by one of Steve's personal Jiu-Jitsu heroes, Dr. Valerie “Valhalla” Worthington! Dr. Worthington shares her expertise in coaching, both on and off the mats. We have a great discussion on the ethics of being a coach, getting more women into Jiu-Jitsu, and celebrating our differences. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Do What Works [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/do-what-works/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/do-what-works/)- Extreme Ownership [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/extreme-ownership/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/extreme-ownership/)- Scientific Method [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/scientific-method/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/scientific-method/)- Train With Purpose [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/)- The Map Is Not the Territory [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/the-map-is-not-the-territory/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/the-map-is-not-the-territory/)- Incremental Learning [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/incremental-learning/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/incremental-learning/)- Beginner's Mind [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beginners-mind/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beginners-mind/)- Respect People, Not Positions [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/respect-people-not-positions/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/respect-people-not-positions/)- Psychological Safety [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/psychological-safety/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/psychological-safety/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

Coach Kody is the dedicated wrestling coach of Demian Maia and Shogun Rua. A lifelong wrestler and former NCAA D1 team captain, Kody shares his thoughts on Wrestling for BJJ, mindset and the value of failures. He also talks about his time spent in Brazil!

Chewy discusses his trip to Montana to train BJJ and also be a guest on a podcast. Chewy gives his insight on how to get the most out of training when going visiting other BJJ gyms, how to train with visitors at your gym, the three things Chewy looks for when traveling, and a Youtube Q&A session. Thanks to our podcast sponsors: *Charlotte's Web CBD.* Head over to https://bit.ly/31HEWoT and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. *Epic Roll BJJ.* Check out https://www.epicrollbjj.com and use the promo code Chewjitsu30 to get 30% off of your total purchase (for a limited time). *Manscaped.* Check out https://www.manscaped.com/ and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 20% off and free shipping on some great grooming gear! Exclusive podcast interviews and conversations, videos, and tons more at https://www.patreon.com/thechewjitsupodcast

This week, Matt is joined by Judo legend Shintaro Higashi for a super detailed and technical discussion of grip strategy. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Mirrored Stances [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/mirrored-stances/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/mirrored-stances/)- Inside Channel Control [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/inside-channel-control/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/inside-channel-control/)- Train With Purpose [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/)- Staying Loose [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/staying-loose/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/staying-loose/)- Kinetic Chains [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/kinetic-chains/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/kinetic-chains/)- Dilemma [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/dilemma/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/dilemma/)- Form to Leave Form [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/form-to-leave-form/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/form-to-leave-form/)- Prioritize Longevity [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/prioritize-longevity/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/prioritize-longevity/)- Transfer of Learning [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/transfer-of-learning/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/transfer-of-learning/)- Meditative Drilling (Technique Visualization) [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/meditative-drilling/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/meditative-drilling/)- Naming Concepts (Labeling) [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/naming-concepts/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/naming-concepts/)- The Map Is Not the Territory [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/the-map-is-not-the-territory/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/the-map-is-not-the-territory/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)

The first American to train BJJ, Richard Bresler joins the show to talk about finding the art in the 70's and how it helped him overcome addiction. He also talks about the Gracie Garage, challenge matches, self defense and the birth of the UFC.

How to get better at predicting what your opponent is going to do, develop faster reactions and train your intuition with Rob Biernacki. Check out Rob's Submission Formula instructional in which you'll learn how to make all your chokes, armlocks and leglocks much tighter and much more effective: https://www.grapplearts.com/submissionformula

Chris Haueter is a BJJ black belt and one of the first twelve Americans to receive a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu. Chris discusses why California was a hot bed for martial arts, why you should "think street" and "train sport," what got him started in jiu-jitsu, the importance of wrestling, why rules are important, the ruleset that Chris prefers, why Chris doesn't feel jiu-jitsu will be in the Olympics until it is a high school sport, how the internet has been integral in the growth of martial arts, how adding one strike into a jiu-jitsu match would change the way you train, when to promote to the next belt, advice for older grapplers, his first thoughts when stepping into Rorion Gracie's garage for the first time, what it as like training with Rickson, and what is up to now. Thanks to our podcast sponsors: *Charlotte's Web CBD.* Head over to https://bit.ly/31HEWoT and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. *Epic Roll BJJ.* Check out https://www.epicrollbjj.com and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 15% off of your total purchase. *Manscaped.* Check out https://www.manscaped.com/ and use the promo code Chewjitsu to get 20% off and free shipping of some great grooming gear! Exclusive podcast interviews and conversations, videos, and tons more at https://www.patreon.com/thechewjitsupodcast

This week, we're joined by Dr. David Ley. In addition to being a clinical psychologist and frequent contributor to Psychology Today, David is a Jiu-Jitsu black belt under Roberto Alencar. He's the perfect guest to discuss one of our most frequently requested topics: depression and Jiu-Jitsu. **Mental models discussed in this episode:** - Habits Over Results [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/habits-over-results/)- Mindfulness [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/mindfulness/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/mindfulness/)- Growth from Discomfort [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/growth-from-discomfort/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/growth-from-discomfort/)- First Principles [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/first-principles/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/first-principles/)- Train With Purpose [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/train-with-purpose/) **IMPORTANT: BJJ Mental Models needs your help.** In light of the COVID-19 outbreak, the future for Steve and Matt is uncertain. Our gyms are closed, our income is impacted, and we need your help in order to continue providing free content. We've started a Patreon where you can support BJJ Mental Models. Please help us keep the lights on so we can keep your game sharp during this once-in-a-century crisis. Link here: [https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://patreon.com/bjjmentalmodels/) **Need more BJJ Mental Models?**Get tips, tricks, and breakthrough insights from our mailing list: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/join/) Get nitty-gritty details on our mental models from the full database: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/database/) Let them know you're an educated grappler with our merch: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/store/) Get the latest BJJ Mental Models updates from Facebook: [https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/](https://facebook.com/bjjmentalmodels/) Music by Enterprize: [https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/](https://enterprize.bandcamp.com/) ⚠️**NEW course from BJJ Mental Models!** **MINDSET FOR BETAS,** our new Jiu-Jitsu audio course with Rob Biernacki, is now available on BJJ Mental Models Premium! For a limited time, get your first month FREE at: [https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta](https://bjjmentalmodels.com/beta)