#360 I Interviewed Coaches After a BJJ Tournament...

Speaker 1: I suck at Jiu-Jitsu. We're turning up both sides. We're bringing you this fucking message. I guess this is suck mess. Hello everybody. This is Josh McKinney. We're back with one more episode of the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show today. I guess we're calling this I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Live and we are here at the Fuji Expo at the end of the day. People are tired. People have won, people have lost. Legends have been made today. And I'm sitting down with two of them right now. The Aries Bros, Robert and Eric. What up? What up? I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu superstars. How are you guys doing? Speaker 2: Uh, pretty good considering. I think I won and lost today. So, uh, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, I that's an interesting that's an interesting take to win and lose. What do you how are you doing, Eric? Speaker 3: I'm drained. Speaker 1: I am too, bro. Speaker 3: This tournament was a lot. I was coaching everywhere, trying to sell stuff. You know, I'm not as seat as you like you you done did about six different episodes with like eight different things setting up, selling. Like it's crazy, dude. Speaker 1: Dude, this is what I do though. This is my this is my job. Honestly, it's much harder to compete. I just sat here and talked about Jiu-Jitsu while people actually did Jiu-Jitsu. It's always easier to talk about it than to be about it, you know? Speaker 2: It's fun to do it though, too. Speaker 1: Tell me about Robert. This is why I wanted you to start. You had an interesting tournament story. Tell me about your match today. Speaker 2: So, it was uh, I haven't competed in 15 months. So, I was very eager to get my feet back wet because I plan on doing a pretty decent year. Um, just opened up the Aries Bros Jiu-Jitsu gym. We did uh, nine weeks ago. And so, that's been going and obviously, I'm a full-time carpenter on that. So, it's just a lot of things I'm juggling. Speaker 1: A lot of things. But that's not the story I'm asking about. I don't care about the things that you're juggling, Robert. Speaker 2: No. So, uh, I was like, I really want to get back out here. Um, and go through the motion. So, I was like, uh, it was obviously free for black belts, which I think is pretty cool. So, um, to pay back to the black belts, I think that's pretty pretty awesome. And, uh, so, I go up for my match. Uh, I jump guard, obviously. Uh, I'm doing my Speaker 1: What you do? Like we talked about. Speaker 2: Yeah, doing my yeah, doing my Gino stuff. Um, and when I start to open it, I'm going for a sweep. The guy tries to ankle lock. And I come up from the ankle lock. I get the sweep. I pass the knee. Almost getting into mount. And he bucks and with enough energy, we have we're already creating a scramble. So, it wasn't like things were slowed down. Uh, I ended up going over his head as he tries coming up. I swivel. I shoot a triangle. He scrambles out of that. Tries to spin around to get side control. I end up framing onto his armpit. I end up retaining my guard, scooting back out, my hips back out. And he goes for the same thing again. Speaker 1: He falls back on the ankle lock. Speaker 2: Yeah, cuz he's he's he's frustrated. So, he falls back on the ankle lock. Yeah, cuz he's he's lost. He's lost. He's got a minute left. So, instead of going for a straight ankle, I'm like, I'm going to come up again and get some sweeps. He ends up attacking the heel hook. Speaker 1: In the ghee. Speaker 2: In the ghee. Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Got you, bro. Speaker 2: And so, it was one of those and I don't even think like I'm never the guy who's ever mad that I lost because of a Jiu-Jitsu technique. Regardless the rule set, I'm more mad because I got injured. Speaker 1: I agree. Speaker 2: Then just like it's like, you know, shit happens. I know if you obviously you train it, you know, it's second nature to attack what you train. Speaker 1: Well, you win. I mean, Yeah. Leave with a medal. It does suck you don't get to compete anymore. I know you have an an injury. That does suck for sure. Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I didn't get to go onto the, you know, the finals match or, you know, finish out the bracket. But, um, yeah, all in all, I mean, like I said, I came here to to just get my feet back wet, you know, get into the to the season right and then, uh, you know, actually fight new black belts and so I I enjoyed myself. So, I mean, minus the injury, I think it was an overall good day. Got to see the buddies compete. I think we didn't really plan on, um, even posting this like as a big team event. And I think we had a lot of tag team guys out here. Speaker 1: We did. And that was really cool. It was fun to just have the crew and get to hang out like that. Eric, what were your thoughts? What did you have? Speaker 3: What was the tournament for you? So, I think honestly, Fuji needs to keep doing this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Cuz this this this was their biggest and their best. And if I was Fuji, I wouldn't worry about if it costed them more money because here's the thing. People are going to come, show and pay. And the tournament they're going to have a lot. Speaker 1: Yeah, it costs a lot of money to bring Josh McKinney out here, you're right. Speaker 3: Josh McKinney. Big you go, Josh McKinney. Speaker 1: That's a high dollar product for sure. Speaker 3: You know. I I feel like it was worth it and I feel like they got the competitor results. They need to do more. You know what I mean? If they could even do some of the regular opens the way they ran this one. Speaker 1: Yeah. With the amount of the amount of vendors and stuff. I agree. Speaker 3: They might they might see me another one that people was talking about the one in February. I don't know if I could do February, but I know they're coming back later on in the year. But, uh, this was a good tournament. Um, it it it got it got me wanting to expand more of my brand. Uh, I got to expand more of my brand. Met a lot of cool people. Um, I also, uh, got got to meet meet people that I might be able later on do business with. You know what I mean? Here in Kansas City. So, I mean, for me, it was a win. I took a lot from it. Um, and it was exhausting. Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I agree. You guys have a four and a half hour drive home, right? Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Are you guys just jumping on the road right after we get off the podcast? Or right after you guys get off the podcast? Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll we'll do that. Speaker 1: Pretty much. No barbecue? No bar just straight home? Speaker 2: I think we're just heading straight home, man. I mean, I like I said, I got a tour up ankle. I got Speaker 1: Yeah, you grab like four or five baconators on your way home and you cruise. Speaker 2: I hear you, dude. Speaker 1: Bacon. This is good. Robert, Eric, thank you guys for coming and hanging out with me. Uh, thank you guys for always supporting. Speaker 2: Always. And on another note, there's a camp coming up. Speaker 1: There is a camp coming up. Tell me about it. And teaching at it. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show camp. Speaker 1: February 20th through the 22nd. Speaker 2: Yes, sir. Speaker 1: And the eight coolest guys Speaker 2: I've never seen a camp Speaker 1: in Granite City. Speaker 2: I've been doing Jiu-Jitsu for a long time. I've been doing combat sports for 20 years. I've never seen a camp that was more than two days long like this. And a lot of camps I've seen that were almost going to be similar. They've been about maybe four coaches. We got eight high-level Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: black belts from the Midwest, American Jiu-Jitsu black belts. Speaker 1: And Kyle Watson. Speaker 2: And Kyle BJJ. How is this going to say? Speaker 1: And Kyle Watson. NCAA wrestler. Speaker 2: And Kyle Watson. Speaker 1: NCAA Watson. That's my boy. UFC veteran. Speaker 2: UFC veteran. Speaker 1: UFC veteran, the ultimate fighters. He's and there's a $100 off if you use promo code right now. Speaker 2: Fuji Expo. Speaker 1: I mean, and you get free coffee. Dude, there's there's a live there's another I mean, dude, there's another show. This isn't just a seminar. This is a this isn't a seminar. This is a fucking experience, brother. Speaker 2: Why are you not talking here, sir? Speaker 1: It is. I agree. Speaker 2: And it is so nuts. Like I don't even know how this isn't been done before, but this is the first. Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, dude. Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a a great whoever does this, I think it's going to get a crazy experience in Jiu-Jitsu and there's no way that your Jiu-Jitsu doesn't get better because I know the coaches that are going to be there and it is some crazy high value content. Speaker 1: Love you guys. You guys always tell me. Speaker 2: Oh, and another thing. Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me another thing. Speaker 3: Nope, I just wanted to say thank you, Josh, man, for, uh, giving me a platform to, uh, actually promote Aries Bros today in Kansas City. You know what I mean? Uh, we only been open for nine weeks and, uh, you know what I mean? Haven't haven't really been on a platform to explore it besides like all around like the Illinois area and like, you know, the surrounding county. So, to come to Missouri, to Kansas City, three hours away and, um, actually sit there and promote the Aries Bros brand. Uh, I just want to thank you and I appreciate it, man. Speaker 1: Yeah, bro. Teamwork teamwork makes the dream work. Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Speaker 1: Thank you guys for being on. I actually have a super famous special guest next that no one expects. Um, if I could get Chris Martin, the lead singer of Coldplay to come up here. People didn't expect that. Aries Bros, you guys have a safe drive. Yes, sir. Chris, I'll probably sit you right here. So, you probably realize right now we're not at I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show Studios. We are at the Fuji BJJ Expo. And this was a really cool event to get to do interviews, to get to do hot takes, and just do the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show in a way that we've never gotten to do before. And that is what I wanted to talk to you guys about right now. We have the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show experience coming up February 20th through the 22nd. This is at my gym in Granite City, Illinois, Head Nod HQ. And the whole goal of the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show experience is to take someone who feels like they're training enough, they're consistent, they're working hard to get better at Jiu-Jitsu, but they still struggle. They still need that cheat code plugged into their game that will help them get better faster than ever. And if you want to do that in 2026, the best way forward is the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show experience. It is myself and seven of the best coaches, black belts that I know. And they are all going to be sharing what they do best. They are going to show you how they learn and how they get better at Jiu-Jitsu on top of showing you their absolute best techniques, their best concepts, and their best training methods. And the idea of this is you will immerse yourself in these ideas. You will immerse yourself in Jiu-Jitsu for an entire weekend. And at the end of it, you will have a path forward. You will have a path forward for probably the next few years for things to work on, holes in your game that could be fixed and so much more. And the best part about this is because of the Fuji Expo, we have a coupon code for you. So, if you go to checkout and you type in Fuji Expo, you will get $100 off your ticket to the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show experience. And our spots are limited. Once we sell out, we're not going to be able to make any more because the gym is just not big enough to hold any more than we have. And so, be sure to get your spot now. Let's get back to the episode. So, spoiler alert if you're seeing it on video. This isn't the Chris Martin that I thought it was either. Uh, this isn't this isn't the Coldplay lead singer famous for the cheating scandal. You know, not his cheating scandal. Not your cheating scandal. Speaker 4: We we try to keep I keep it ethical. Speaker 1: Ethical, bro. You've got to. You've got to. Speaker 4: Especially in the insurance game. Speaker 1: You do. And that's why I wanted to have you up. We just we just met today. So, of course, Chris, if you are, you know, an evil shyster and you're screwing people, I can't take that much blame. But you really did sell me on Jiu-Jitsu insurance. And, you know, we had the conversation of in America, what insurance is like and it's really not good. It doesn't take care of you. It doesn't keep you feeling safe. And, um, you just explained some things to me and I just wanted to give you the platform and let you talk to people and let them know about this option. Speaker 4: Yeah, and I appreciate that, Josh. Number one, one of the biggest things that I see in our sport for Jiu-Jitsu, especially athletes, is we train Jiu-Jitsu, we train hard, and most of the guys on the mats here today, they probably don't have health insurance. Speaker 1: Yeah. I know none of my guys do. You know, I know none of them do. Speaker 4: Or if they do have health insurance, they have really high deductible plans. They have out of pockets and then they have that injury and that nagging injury they just don't go get treated. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 4: Because why? They're scared of the medical bills. Yes. And so, uh, about five or six years ago, I came across a program. It was a specific insurance program. It's not just for grapplers. Anybody can buy it. And this program pays if somebody if they get uh accidentally injured, um, hurt, whether they're whether they're doing Jiu-Jitsu or maybe they're playing basketball or volleyball or or slice their finger cutting some wood. They go anywhere they want to go get treated for that accident or injury. And then the insurance company sends them money to help pay for these medical bills. So, it's like a reimbursement. Uh-huh. And for the cost of the policy under $30 a month, I I came across it. I looked at the benefits. I said, well, this is a great program. I I need it for myself. I get hurt all the time. And so, I looked at that those fine lines like called the limitations and exclusions in the insurance policies that nobody ever reads. Yes. And I was looking for the exclusion for combat sports or Jiu-Jitsu or and there wasn't one for this specific policy. Uh-huh. So, I I bought it for myself and then I had some other friends in the Milwaukee area that also I said, hey, you should take a look at this. They bought the programs. I wasn't the first one to get hurt. My buddy Scotty over at Primal MKE was one of the first guinea pigs on this program. He ended up do, you know, the most when we he owns an MMA gym. So, they do a lot of, um, wall shooting and and, uh, you know, takedowns off the wall. So, there's really high probability of injury in that type of, uh, fighting style. Um, and sure enough, he had a leg injury and he called me up and he's like, I need to file a claim. We filed the claim. He got the money. And it paid beyond what his medical bills were. So, the policy just pays you directly based off of a schedule of benefits and then that whatever treatment you got, whether you got an MRI or you want to see the the therapist on a follow-up treatment or you had a fractured arm, emergency room visit. There's a level of benefit. They just send you a a a check directly. So, he was the first one to file a claim. Then the second person was my daughter playing volleyball, just taking a bump the hard way, went to get treated. We got money sent in the mail for us. But then I went and I got hurt. So, I was, uh, in practice and I was trying to take somebody's back. And it was a big dude and I was I I was he he kind of like, you know, what do you call it? Like bump, like bull, like Speaker 1: He got spazzing. Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And I literally went down on my head. And I had extreme numbness immediately in the on my and so, I was already scared already because I had a previous injury, uh, about four years prior where I had a stroke on the mat from getting choked out. Then was completely paralyzed. So, I'm like, oh no, is this another neuro issue? Anyways, long story short, I went to my neuro. I had a uh for my medical insurance, I had a $10 copay. We went to the neuro, he checked every I went to Dr. talked to him. He checked everything out. And he's like, listen, Chris, it it sounds like more of like a nerve thing. I don't think you have to be worried about your neck or your your head or anything. I don't think we need to do any scans. He goes, just, you know, go home, stay, you know, stay off of it, you know, keep keep your, you know, make sure there's no neuro signs later on. But I think it's just a like a a nerve issue or something to that. I said, okay, so I went home. Filed the claim on my accident injury insurance program. That pays $250 cash for just that physician office visit. So, for that visit, you do the math. I paid a $10 copay. And I didn't need to get any imaging or anything like that. And then I got a $250 check in the mail. So, like little things like that. But then I've got other clients who they have, you know, larger, um, surgeries like a stomach surgery. A guy had in Muay Thai. They had to kind of, you know, do something. Long story short, he has the policy. You know, he has a $2,000 medical deductible. Um, paid that. Their insurance paid everything else. But then he got a check in the mail from the insurance company for seven grand. So, he pocketed that extra grand, five grand. This guy's a financial advisor. He's like, this is one of the best investments I've ever made. So, and and it's it's it's it's $30 a month. So, to me, it's a no-brainer. So, for you to allow me to come on the show and showcase this, I'm not make I'm not getting rich off of these things. You know, we're doing this for the pure good of the grapplers because they have no idea this exists. Speaker 1: And that is, I mean, for me, like I said, one of my black belts sent me your company saying you were going to be at the expo and to make sure to talk to you because it's just such an interesting thing. You would see most injuries that you see on the mat, the person says literally like one of their first things, I don't have insurance. And I I just think that's an awesome thing. Thank you, Chris, for coming on and and just giving us some information. If any people wanted to know more, Jiu-Jitsu insurance.com? Speaker 4: It's that it's that simple. And so, we do most of our business is done on the commercial gym side. So, we're 50 states nationally. So, we do a lot of the liability insurance for the gyms. So, the gyms that you're in training. And a lot of these gyms, so that that's one piece of the whole risk management plan. So, going back to what you said, how you got a lot of these athletes that don't have insurance. For a gym owner, that's got to be a red flag number one. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 4: And so, that's part of the onboarding process that says, here, sign the waiver because you got to have the guy sign the waiver. And by the way, just so everybody knows, just because somebody signs a waiver doesn't mean you can't Speaker 1: Means nothing. Speaker 4: Yeah, go talk to the, you know, go talk to the guy in Delmar that got hit with a, you know, three million dollar lawsuit. And also, it's not that's the high profile case. There are so many cases that I see come across my desk that nobody ever sees. You know, little things like a broken leg where two guys doing Randori, the gym still gets pulled into that. And there's still a million dollar lawsuit. Uh, those things happen all the time. So, but my point is is on the onboarding when you're bringing on somebody, one thing a gym owner can do to that really mitigate, you know, risk and then also do their due diligence for risk management in their gym. They say, hey, listen, Jiu-Jitsu is dangerous. I'm not going to sell you the BS that this is the gentle art. And I I'll tell you that. I was paralyzed from this thing. This is there ain't nothing gentle about this. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 4: So, that being said, injuries are going to happen. Here's the protocols that we have at our gym to try to keep you safe. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 4: We're going to do the best that we can. Oh, by the way, do you have insurance? Oh, you don't? Okay. Speaker 1: That's a really good thought. Speaker 4: Well, you're going to call this guy right here. He's going to get you enrolled for 30 bucks a month. At least you're going to have something. That's the first level of risk management that a gym owner can do. Speaker 1: That's a really good thought. Speaker 4: Cuz what happens is if somebody does get hurt, what's going to happen is like everybody says this. They're like, oh, these are my buddies. They're not going to sue me. I'm not worried about it. Well, once those medical bills start coming in, that's a whole another Speaker 1: Totally agree. Speaker 4: situation. So, Speaker 1: Yeah, they hate you. They don't care about you. Um, but yeah, I dude, I totally agree. Chris, thank you so much. It really does sound like you guys are doing an awesome thing. Thanks for coming up, buddy. Speaker 4: Josh, thank you. I appreciate it, brother. Speaker 1: Yes, where is Trey Carter? I was worried that maybe the Broncos were losing and you had left. Speaker 4: So much. Speaker 1: They're winning? It's tied? They're tied? Okay. What's the time, Trey? Speaker 5: The Jiu-Jitsu mats are really gross. If you really think about it. I try to not think about it. I've actually run into this problem of writing commercials for my friends at Sports Hygiene. It's so hard to write commercials because if I just really am honest with people and we all just sat for a second and we think about how gross the Jiu-Jitsu mats are. We just really we marinate on that thought in the same way that we marinate on all of the body fluids of our friends. And then you hear about a product from Sports Hygiene. You hear about their product Full Guard. And you hear about this idea of hypochlorous acid and how it can literally kill ringworm, it can kill staff, and it is good for your skin biome. And this idea that there is a spray that you could literally spray on in between rounds to protect your body from the grossness of the Jiu-Jitsu mats is unbelievable. And it just so happens that they love the I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu Show and want to give a promo code to you guys and that is promo code I Suck. And so, at checkout, when you are getting your case of Full Guard to just douse your body in because of how gross the mats are, be sure to use promo code I Suck at checkout. Let's get back to the episode. Speaker 1: You guys like him here? Do you like him on the side? That's what I thought you were going to say. What's the score? Is it 10-10? 10-10. 10-10. How have you felt about the Broncos so far this year, Trey Carter? This has got to be, I mean, I you were posting about the Broncos when they weren't doing very good, my brother. So, you got to be pretty excited. Speaker 5: Oh, I'm super excited. The uh, the biggest the hearing my own voice. Speaker 1: I know, it's weird. It's weird. As close as you can get to the mic. If not, you'll be cutting it in out and you'll it'll be even weirder. Speaker 5: Man, the Broncos over the last two years, especially getting Bo Nix. I think the biggest thing that has me so fired up right now is how much hate there is for Bo Nix. Speaker 1: You know what's funny, too, in this area, do you think that people are excited about the Broncos being in the being in the playoffs still? Speaker 5: No. The last nine years, the Chiefs have kicked the living snot out of the AFC West and I was so excited to run around and be like, hey, what's going on now? Nobody wants to talk about it. Nobody cares. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 5: I was like, so excited to rub it in people's faces and they were like, I don't care. Speaker 1: I don't even like football anymore, guys. Speaker 5: Yeah. I was excited to rub it in people's faces and they were like, I don't care. Speaker 1: Yeah. But you got to remember, and I know this isn't the crowd I should be mentioning this around. But the Chiefs are doing good. You're going to get a lot of fair weather Chiefs fans. Yeah. You know, it's you're not a real fan until you watch them lose in the playoffs and it hurts your soul. You're angry. You're angry for the next the rest of the you know, until the next season starts where you have hope again and they do it to you again. That's a real fan. Speaker 5: If for you to be a real fan, your team has to absolutely suck and you still support them and know who's actually playing for them. Speaker 1: I was a Saints fan. Speaker 5: And not just watch the score because what's even crazier is last year they talk about how uh the Buffalo dominated the Broncos. It's like, that wasn't the score looked like it. But if you watch the actual game, yeah, it was like, yeah, it'd be like uh seeing a Jiu-Jitsu match that ended like, I don't know, like 9 to 0 and you think like, oh, he's getting dominated the whole time. But it was like 1 45 second sequence that led to all that. It's like, that doesn't tell the whole Speaker 1: They quit. I agree. Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't tell the whole story. Doesn't tell the whole story at all. Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Tell me some Jiu-Jitsu stuff, Trey. What do you got? What are you working on? What are you thinking about? What's happening in life? Tell me, tell me some things. How's your back? What have you got going on, bro? Speaker 5: Oh, there's a lot right there. Okay, so I'll tell you the most recent thing. Uh, I really don't ever get sick. Like at least I I grew up raising like if you didn't feel good, you still went to work. Now, I'm not trying to say like if I'm sick and I get strep throat, I'm still rolling with everybody. I'm not saying that. Okay, just to be clear. Speaker 1: Oh, you're telling me. Speaker 5: No, no, no, I'm not saying that. I only do that when I come cross train with you, which is complaining that for next time. Speaker 1: Yeah, when I'm sick, I don't greet all my students with open mouth kisses. You know, but when not when I'm healthy. Speaker 5: Are you able to stop Jeff from doing that? Speaker 1: No, nothing can stop Jeff from that. Speaker 5: No, but uh over the over New Year's, actually on my birthday, which is crazy. Uh, I ended up coming down with like I I don't know if it was the flu or what it was, but it was like I couldn't breathe like very well at all. Like I I remember training a Tuesday morning, uh, took a nap, don't remember the rest of the day. I don't remember Wednesday and then I remember patches of a Thursday and my wife told me it's like, yeah, you were like dying. I'm like, what the I don't remember any of that. I was like, don't call the hospital, don't take me to urgent care. So, I think my wife was trying to kill me. I don't know. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you were it was weird. It just like every time you were eating the, you know, the antifreeze sandwiches that I was making, you would get really dizzy and sick. Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird. Speaker 1: Interesting. Speaker 5: It is. Uh, back wise though, my back's doing better. Uh, it's always it's kind of moody at times, but I've been uh, I'm still working my with my same strength coach, but I've made some adjustments of like going back to setting some of my Westside barbell kind of like the idea of working on what's like weak. But the idea is like the wider your base is, the higher the pyramid can be. I probably butchered that. So, but Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds good. Speaker 5: I sounded smart until I messed it up. Maybe. I don't know. Speaker 1: The the thicker the trunk, the bigger the limbs, right? Speaker 5: Whoa. Speaker 1: Right? Yeah. Okay, something like that. Something like that. Speaker 5: Yeah. Whoa. Speaker 1: And that's been helping your back? Speaker 5: Uh, I mean, right now, yeah. So, anecdotally, like I'm I'm able to move well. I feel fine. Uh, my knee's finally, uh, I would say like 98% recovered. It only like feels like slightly like some small swelling and some really unique niche positions. But, uh, since I had surgery, I feel really good now. I'm working my weight down, which is not the most fun. Speaker 1: No, dude. No. Speaker 5: No. I like float up to like 180 and then I walk it down to like 170 and then I got to weigh 164 without my ghee on cuz I to weigh 168. That's about what I need to weigh. So, into February is when we're back at it. So, I'm super excited. Speaker 1: All right. That sounds like you're on track for it though. How's uh how was the the tournament today? How was coaching Ethan and the rest of the crew? Speaker 5: It was good. I haven't eaten all day yet. So, Speaker 1: What are you guys going to eat after? Speaker 5: Uh, I don't know. My wife is sending me pictures of like pizza and everything else like that. But at the same time, I feel like I probably should eat something I'll be happy that I ate after. You know, like pizza's one of those things that you can eat now and you're like, dude, I feel this is amazing. Speaker 1: I hear that. Speaker 5: But then you know if you like got to cut weight later on, you're like, I'm going to regret this cuz Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Speaker 5: Cuz I I feel happy after eating pizza, but I know the longer I take to walk my weight down, the more miserable the weight cut is. Speaker 1: That makes sense. That does. Okay. So, it's a it's a deep choice. Are you guys going home tonight? Speaker 5: No. We have uh we have the kids portion tomorrow. So, I've got I've got both of my boys. They're competing and then we got a handful of other or of other athletes competing as well. So, should be good. But yeah, Fuji's Fuji's been awesome. In fact, Fuji's like uh probably one of my more favorite tournaments. Like obviously, we do a lot of the IBJJF's, but I think the thing I like most about I shouldn't say most, but one thing I like a lot is that if you ever if you could compete as a for the black belt, Fuji. Speaker 1: Once. Like, once. Speaker 5: Were they doing it in the beginning of the day though? Speaker 1: Yes, they were. They were doing that. They've always done that. That's always been that makes so much sense. Speaker 5: Getting to compete against uh in front of like uh cuz normally they would have the kids, like most of them kids and then adults, but all the kids are gone. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 5: So, like all these kids you get to coach, like they maybe get to see highlights maybe or hear about how you're doing or they see you in training. But the first experience I had was like competing against uh competing and then all the kids watching and having all the kids cheer for you and go crazy is wild. And plus you get to compete and then coach. Versus like coaching all day, your neck gets tight, your back gets tight and then you got to somehow get warmed up and compete. It's not Speaker 1: But kids don't hide their disappointment like adults do. If you lose in front of the kids. Speaker 5: Thankfully, I haven't lost in front of them. Speaker 1: Oh, brother. Speaker 5: There were the the closest opportunity I think I had was back at one of the Springfield ones. I had an opportunity to compete against uh Gracie Humaita guy and he his thumb went like halfway into my skull. So, I had to do the rest of that match and fight him again with not being able to see. That was the tough. Speaker 1: I'm Asian. I can't always see typically, you know, if I'm just a little tired, you know, I can't see most things. So, you got to do it by feel. You know, I know what that's like. Speaker 5: I know what that's like. I don't I don't. What about what about you though? Are you are do you plan on competing a lot this year or Speaker 1: Bro, I don't know. Speaker 5: Cuz I want to see the Josh McKinney compete at adult again. Speaker 1: I'm going to do I'm going to do one adult for sure. But I can't be telling everybody what it is. It would be it would ruin the surprise. Speaker 5: You can just be honest. I mean, we already know that you publicly lie about sucking at Jiu-Jitsu, which is totally fine. Speaker 1: I publicly lie about everything, Trey. Speaker 5: That is. Speaker 1: It's just what I do. You know, I don't I don't like how you keep trying to bring all kinds of, you know, Speaker 5: Listen, I haven't trained I haven't trained with you a lot, but the the couple times that I've trained with you is like, yeah, number one, Josh does not suck. Number two, this is like a really tough chess match. Like any off balance that I feel like I can do right now is taxing my whole body. And like Speaker 1: It's absorbed by my excessive steroid use, is what you're saying. You know. Speaker 5: I don't think a buffet is considered steroid use. Speaker 1: Respectfully. Yeah, you're right. You got me. Speaker 5: Plus, uh, you've got one or two kids. Speaker 1: I just got one. I just got one. Speaker 5: Plus, you're a dad now. You got to put on the sympathy weight with the wife cuz like it's Dude, pregnancy is very tough on the guy, too. Speaker 1: It is. And people don't talk about that enough. We should get you on a full episode and you and I could talk about how mistreated the men in Jiu-Jitsu. Speaker 5: It's sexist. That's what I'm saying. It's 100% sexist. I think people don't appreciate men enough and Speaker 1: I agree, dude. Speaker 5: I think it needs to be talked about, Robert. Speaker 1: Yeah, stop male hate. Hashtag right here. Bam. I've got Speaker 5: Male rights. Speaker 1: I've got the the Prada clan that's supposed to be here at some point, but I don't know where they are. I don't know if if you guys have seen them, but if you have, I know Devon and Bianca are supposed to be heading this way at some point. But for right now, Trey. Speaker 5: Devon is the one of the most absolutely entertaining people to me and is also at the same time terrifying to me. Speaker 1: He's pretty scary. Yeah, he's Speaker 5: Did I tell you about the first time I met him? I saw him uh I think it was like an AGF tournament and uh a lot of our kids uh like our athletes competed against each other. And I remember he had this t-shirt on that said something along the lines of like, uh, I'm not here to basically be your friend and I don't I don't want to be your friend or something like that. Speaker 1: You're not here to make friends. Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And uh I love the dude's passion for his team, but if you were not on his team, he didn't even act like you existed. And I remember thinking, I want this guy to be my friend. Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Sometimes if you're on his team, he still won't act like you exist. You know, he's still won't he's still won't. Oh wait, we got we got two of where is Devon and Bianca? Are they gone already? Are you guys switching me? Are you guys coming in? Cuz I think you're supposed to. You're acting like you're dressed like you're supposed to leave, but you were supposed to come sit by me. Trey, anything you want to say to finish? Speaker 5: Um, No-Gi's easy. Uh, the Gi is the best. It's real. People can talk about No-Gi taking over, but coincidentally, Gi practices have the most people in them. Speaker 1: That's true. And No-Gi is stupid. Speaker 5: Uh, America is the best. American Jiu-Jitsu. Speaker 1: Amen. Speaker 5: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is not real. Speaker 1: Long live American Jiu-Jitsu. Speaker 5: Yep. And uh, everybody, I'm just going to say this. Everybody should just message Josh McKinney like crazy. Speaker 1: Please don't. Speaker 5: To compete as much as he can. And if you guys can, send a letter to Jeff to uh, compete and ask him how his tournament's been going lately and to actually put the Gi on and listen to Josh McKinney. Because Josh McKinney is basically his dad and he should respect his, you know, his dad. Speaker 1: This is true. Speaker 5: Anything else? Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you so much, Trey. This is this is exactly what I needed you to say. That is what needed to be said. Speaker 6: Yo, so, I got a new Gi. It's really, really sick. Dotsu Sara just sent me their Fun Gi number two. And uh has a color stitching that I've never really seen before. It just the the Gi looks really cool. The the obviously whatever artist they had design it took special care on this. And it's just such a unique design. I have worn it twice now and I have probably gotten 20 different comments on the Gi. Everybody's like, hey, why is this shiny? Can I touch this? Can I put on your Gi top? It's can I choke you with this a little bit? And so, um it's definitely been the talk of the town. Only problem I had is I trained in it the other day. Jump in the car. It's like one of the last nice days of the year out. And so, I got the windows down. Jump in the car, still Gi on, still sweaty. I got leather seats. No big deal. Um and I'm going to drive home. And on my way home, I end up having to roll up the windows because women were literally just trying to jump into the car because they were so impressed by this Dotsu Sara Gi. And so, if that interests you, if um being, you know, the coolest looking person on the mat interests you, being in one of the most comfortable Gi's that there is interests you, um be sure to check out Dotsu Sara. Um be sure to check out DSgear.com and use promo code I Suck at checkout and you'll get 10% off of your Gi, your backpack, whatever you want from them. But be sure to check them out. Speaker 1: Now it's time to be joined by Baba and Brooke. One of you guys on the handheld, one of you guys. You got to put this on. Well, I mean, you don't have to. You can do whatever you want, bro. You can just hear me so much better if you put it on. I'll sound more buttery in your ear. All right. Trey's doing cartwheels now. Broncos are up 17-10. He's pumped. How do you feel about that? Speaker 7: I I don't watch. Speaker 8: No comment. Speaker 1: No comment. How are you guys doing? Speaker 7: Oh, good. Tired. Speaker 8: Yeah. Speaker 7: Been training all day. Speaker 1: So, long day. So, good time to get on a mic and talk to someone. And it'd be permanent forever on YouTube. Let me ask you guys this. Favorite matches of the day. Anything that stands out for you? Speaker 8: So hard cuz we're going to be so biased. Speaker 1: Yeah, they are. Speaker 8: It's going to be. Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Speaker 8: That's when I'm saying. Speaker 1: Your favorite person. Yeah. Your favorite person. Speaker 7: Oh, Adrees killed it. Adrees killed it. Speaker 8: Adrees. He's always our favorite. Um, goes out there and puts it all on the line. Speaker 1: Adrees introduced me to himself in the bathroom. Speaker 8: Yeah, that sounds about right. Speaker 1: What a great place. Speaker 8: Yeah, that's an interesting. Speaker 1: I went to shake his hand and he was like, nah, dude, I haven't washed my hands. I'm like, yeah, why are you introducing me here? You know, like that feels like Speaker 7: But did did you shake his hand? Speaker 1: Yeah, I made him. I wouldn't let him. I'm like, no, we're shaking hands right now, bro. Speaker 8: Power move. Power move. He started it with introducing himself in the bathroom and then you were like, no, I'm in charge here. Speaker 1: Well, no, he said, hey, man, I really listen to your show and I said, could you close the stall? Could you Speaker 7: He's like, let's do a podcast. Speaker 1: He's like, inside. Speaker 7: Let me in. Speaker 1: Oh, man, poor guy. He just he got the shout out for the best match of the day and then just got Speaker 8: Well, not only that. Sorry, I got to give Adrees his flowers cuz he also was in Chicago and flew in this morning. Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Speaker 8: He went to a job interview, flew in this morning. His flight got delayed. So, he missed all his Gi stuff. Got here, competed and won his division. And it was Speaker 1: Did he get the did he get the job? Speaker 8: Uh, I I believe so, but I don't want to jinx him. Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Speaker 8: That's not. Speaker 1: I'm neither here nor there on that. Speaker 8: I'll tell you this. They're going to listen to this and he's going to be fired. Speaker 1: Oh, man. Speaker 8: You're so right. Speaker 1: He's going to get fired and it's our fault. Speaker 8: Oh, dang it. Well, Speaker 1: What about give me a low light. Somebody who you could talk bad about. Speaker 8: Oh, no. Speaker 1: That that disappointed you deeply. Or better, who disappointed Devon deeply? Speaker 8: Oh, no. How long is this podcast? Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, the most who who who disappointed Devon the deepest? Speaker 8: No, he's Yeah, this is a thing though. It's like I think he I think it's great for any coach to like Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 8: be very real. Be very real with their um competitors after they lose. I think that's the best time to tell them what they did wrong. Instead of just like, hey, good job. Way to go out there and do that. And then try to remember later to tell them. And then also having that feeling there, I feel like ingrains it a little whenever somebody made those mistakes. You go, this was the mistake. This is what you did. You shouldn't have done that. Um, so obviously, it feels like disappointment right then and there. But we all go through it. We've all like made a lot of mistakes and stuff like that. And I think that's um from a coach's standpoint, it's good to like be disappointed right out the gate. But then the next day or the next week, just let it go and Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I don't know. Sometimes it's nice to keep reminding that person of that loss. Speaker 8: Well, there are some things that happen like if you could have scrambled and you decided to lay down instead, things like that. Like I think that should be talked about forever. Speaker 1: Yes, that's true. Speaker 8: Until somebody like, you know, starts moving fast. Speaker 1: Well, and it's also if it's a likable person, you're a lot more willing to like give them some grace. But if it's an unlikable person that then loses, Yeah, and sometimes there's it's not necessarily an unlikable person. Like you like them so much that you make fun of them all the time. And then they take it. That's why you like them. And then they fuck up. Sorry, they mess up in Jiu-Jitsu. Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want. Speaker 8: Then they mess up in Jiu-Jitsu. So, you just want to make fun of them all the time about it cuz they take it so well. And then you start naming like mistakes after them and like, you know, things like that. Speaker 1: That's this is good coaching. This is how people Jiu-Jitsu should be talked about. Speaker 8: Like don't do this. That's what so and so does. Speaker 1: And he sucks. 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