THE SIMPLE MAN PODCAST Ep. 154 | Wyatt Hendrickson

Speaker 1: You're listening to The Simple Man with Ethan Krell and Stan Niky Rod and Damian Anderson. Stay a while if you know about the Jujitsu. If you don't, you can come too. This is E T. Thank you. Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back to Simple Man podcast. Today we have a special guest, Mr. Wyatt Hendrickson, right? That's how you pronounce it. Speaker 1: That's correct. Speaker 2: Uh, reigning NCAA Division 1 heavyweight champion of the world. And uh, you're going for gold in 2028, huh? Speaker 1: That's the plan. That's the plan. Year by year. And so, of course, there's the World Championships every single year. A lot of people, um, they really put the Olympics on a pedestal, rightfully so. But the World Championships is the exact same tournament, just with a different label. So, I'm really excited to keep doing that. We'll have a couple, um, of those tournaments in 2026, 2027, and then, of course, 2028 Olympics. That's the goal. Speaker 3: Dude, you are set for Mount Olympus, it seems. You've been on a trajectory. It's really cool, like, um, obviously, I I think it's fair to say like a big breakout for you was beating Gable. That was like a huge, uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but it was like a huge moment for for, you know, the wrestling world even. Um, can can you hear me all right? Speaker 2: Yeah, closer is better. Closer is better. Is this your first podcast? Speaker 1: A little closer. Yeah. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Speaker 3: I just cuz I hear myself and it's like, I don't know. Speaker 2: Closer, closer is better. Um, but yeah. Did has anybody asked you what he said to you as you're walking? Speaker 1: Many people have. And so this is, let me just give you guys some context for this because I like to I've I've learned after being asked this thousands of times, I I can explain it well to make you guys understand because a lot of people thought I was lying. Like, yeah, I know you heard him. Like, come on. Like, be like, I'll be on a podcast and like, hey, man, like, for the very first time, you're gonna say it on my podcast. And I'm like, you know. But here, so here's what happened. So first, first for some context, I've been wrestling for 18, 19 years. And never once in my wrestling career before a match has anyone came up to me in a disrespectful manner. Sometimes foreigners will come up to you and shake your hand, you know, or like a little bow, cuz it's just like a sign of respect. So never ever has anyone ever disrespectfully done anything, um, in that manner coming up to me. So in my brain, like nothing warranted him to be doing anything mad. But whenever before I go out and wrestle, I'm always focused. I'm not worried about anything but the match. You know, I like to clear my brain and I just I go inaudible. I don't really hear anything. I'm really just focused. And so the only thing I realized before the match was I walked up to him and I saw him like close to me and I'm like, oh, like he's coming up to be like, hey, man, like, great job, you know. Like, I thought it was like a little hoo-rah thing. I wasn't really I wasn't listening. I wasn't paying attention. I didn't hear anything. And from there, I just walked over to my corner and I was like, all right, it's ready to wrestle. And even Coach Taylor was like expecting me to have a reaction. He like grabbed, you can see in the video, he was and he always usually does that to help me like just calm my breathing down. And he's like, you good? And I'm like, yeah, ready to go. And he's like, oh, all right, like, I didn't understand it. So it wasn't until after the match in my interviews when I started to realize that he actually did something like hostile. I didn't know that. I mean, I wasn't really that's not where my brain was. But I like to say that because he didn't get in my head, which was his intent of that, it got in his head because he was like, oh, shoot, like, this guy's actually pretty focused, ready to go. So I do not know what he said. And I didn't hear a thing. I really didn't. But it was definitely something along the lines of what, uh, you know, the commentators thought. It wasn't something nice. Speaker 3: It did nothing. So you don't know what he said. Speaker 2: What did the commentator? Okay, like, Speaker 1: So they're there he was like, hey, like you have to be an Olympic gold medalist to wear the American flag around your back. Speaker 2: You know, you know why? Cuz he he came out running with American flag out on the mat. Usually that happens after you win Olympic gold. They run around. Speaker 1: Correct. It's most common after you win a World Championship, which I have won a World Championship. So, that's all first off, yeah, that's already happened before. But also, I mean, I'm I'm a United States Air Force. And so I'm I took a lot of pride in this country. And, uh, Pat Glory, a really good wrestler, national champion, did that a couple years years ago. And I remember as soon as I saw that, I was with my buddies and he's like, dude, when you're in the national finals, you gotta do that. Um, and I was like, heck yeah, I'm gonna do it. And I did it. So, I mean, there's nothing really wrong about that. I think it was just, you know, Gable's a showman and he likes to do stuff. So that's totally fine. But, I mean, I wasn't paying attention. I was like, yeah, whatever. Speaker 2: So you're allowed. Speaker 3: So you did it. Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Speaker 3: What a what a defining moment. And yeah, like, um, again, like I was saying, that's a huge, huge thing for you. And going into that, like you said before, you're like super focused to the point where you're zoning out like audio even. Um, can you tell us a bit about like your mindset going into this things going into these things? Speaker 2: I I kinda wanna know how you how you get in the zone. Cuz some guys are like need a little bit of anger. Some guys need some emotion. Some guys need no emotion. Speaker 1: Yes. I finally figured out what worked best for me after I would get gassed out of my matches many times in like my beginning years of college. So what I used to do is I'd be listening to like Skrillex or something crazy, you know, like just getting hyped up. And, uh, one of my coaches at the Air Force Academy was, uh, Coach Joe Johnston. He was actually like a a psych guy. Like he knew all the psychology behind stuff. And there's like a curve of like excitement of where you should be. And I was always ramping myself up. And when I went out there, I was already like, I was like, so hyped up already. And so, Speaker 3: Too too tense, too stiff. Speaker 1: Way too tense. I was already like, I was burning myself out. Like I was going in there like a 10. And, you know, that's not really what it's a it's seven minutes isn't a long match to some people. But when you're out there, you guys know as competitors, like, dude, it it it's a lot. Speaker 3: You can't sprint for seven minutes straight. Speaker 1: Exactly. So if you're already start at 10, you're like, oh, no. Speaker 3: You're gonna cook yourself. Speaker 1: So I actually started listening. I like to be more calm when I go out there. So I do a lot of breathing exercises now to make sure my heart rate's nice and calm. I listen to a lot of like symphony music. Speaker 3: Oh. Speaker 1: I know. It's it's unique. But I have to I have to calm myself down. I need to be able to go in there with a clear mind because if I'm like going out of like cuz in a lot of people, like they might find their strength in like anger or something. I have nothing but love in my heart, so I can't do that. But for me, it's really just staying calm because that's when I have a clear mind is when I'm calm. If I'm like hyped up or like there's emotion in there, that's when I make a lot of mistakes. I've like I've had many experiences when I can look back and I'm like, yep, that's exactly one of those moments when I let emotion get the best of me. Speaker 3: We're talking about that. Speaker 2: Make mistakes. Wow. Yeah, I I can definitely relate. Um, sometimes in live training, we have like competition. I a lot of times do no music or we'll play some, um, some like Mozart or something like that. Speaker 1: I I listen to soundtracks too. Anything without words. It's it's it does something. Like even doing homework, like I can't if I hear words, it just takes me away. Speaker 3: Distracts you. Speaker 1: Yeah, just nice calm stuff. I like that. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm down. Uh, usually like pre-match, like an hour before match, I'll listen to some music, but it's like it's like it's like that symphony or some slow country or something. And then I take them take them the music out and just kind of expose myself to the arena. And then get in the zone. Speaker 1: I got I have a question for you now. Okay, so like competitions and stuff. For for the like we just talked about like the hour before you're listening to music. What do you do the day of? I'm curious. I'll tell you what I do after. But like what do you do day of like for competitions? Speaker 2: Okay. Day of, uh, usually I compete fairly late, like 6:00 to 9:00 p.m. Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's a whole day. Like you have to do something all like Yeah. Are you thinking about that all day or what are you doing during the day? Speaker 2: I have the ability to hibernate. So honestly, I'll sleep pretty much all day and I'll only wake up to eat carbs or or to take a leak. So like pretty much I I'll wake up naturally at like 7:00, 8:00 a.m. I'll go outside, get some sunlight, just like stretch a little bit, and then go back inside. Um, but the whole time, like I'll probably smash like close to a whole bag of bagels. And I'm just trying to load up as much as possible. And I'll I'll stop eating, uh, the heavy slow carbs like like two to three hours before and then turn on to like some some fruits and and dates and stuff. So I I just try to max out carb and potassium the day of. And then, um, yeah, I'm really just I'm sleeping. I'm like cuz when I'm I have this thing where either I'm on or I'm off. So like once I turn it on, I want to be ready and and good to go. Uh, but like pretty much 40 minutes before, I'll like, you know, I'll take the I'll take the eye mask off, the the earplugs out, and, uh, I'll start getting loose. I'll get my sweat on. I'll get my first wind. And then I'm ready to go. You know, it's not it's it's simple. Speaker 1: I love my bagel guy too. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm so jealous that you can sleep all day. Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know how that. Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how that. I I can't. Speaker 2: I can just like not think at all. Speaker 3: I need distractions. Speaker 1: That's a that's a skill. That's Speaker 2: Thanks. Speaker 1: That's I wish I could just shut my brain off. Speaker 3: He's worked on this. He practices every day. Speaker 2: So how about how about you? How how different is your is your day of? Speaker 1: So I was I asked that cuz I was just really curious of like some people like that's awesome. You can just tune out. Some guys like to watch film in the morning. Um, they just there's all different sorts of things people like to do. So I am cannot shut my brain off. So I just have to do a really good job kind of sidetracking it. So what I do is I try to make it seem like a normal day. For example, the NCAA tournament. That morning, you know, if I'm thinking about, okay, I'm wrestling Gable. I'm the first, I'm wrestling the NCAA finals in front of 15,000 people, whatever. Um, the president's gonna be there. You know, I'm also gonna be there. I'm wrestling Gable Steveson. Like if that's what's going through my mind, like that's gonna be a stressful day for me. Cuz I got 12 hours of just thoughts going in my head. And so I thought back to when I when do I wrestle my best? And we do practice matches here. I'm I mean, every place but there's practice matches, every single college. But like on those days, I'm just waking up, eating breakfast. It's just another day. I'm just hanging out and then I go show up and wrestle. And so I try to just make it as normal as possible and I veg out and become an iPad kid. Speaker 3: Thinking about that. Speaker 1: So I bring my iPad with me to the tournament and everything. Um, even during the day, I like to hang out with friends. I like to make it just don't put any stress on myself. I'm like, hey, like, just another day. Like, what's up, guys? Like, just making it normal. Like until probably an hour before, that's when I'm like, okay, hey, let's start to get in competition mode. Um, cuz I think usually, and especially in the the at the NCAA finals, I was like an iPad. You just sit in the back, just feet up, watching, watching movies, um, most of the day. And then an hour before is when I start to like get moving just a little bit. Yeah, try to get in that zone. But if I don't do if I like start getting in the zone at like, you know, 2:00 o'clock, cuz we wrestle like 9:00 or 10:00, you know, it's a late event. Um, I gotta sidetrack myself from that. Speaker 3: Wow. Speaker 1: That's great, man. Speaker 3: I wish I wish I could sleep the entire day, but yeah, I'm like I can't. Speaker 1: I I I do usually take a nap. I try to take a nap. But all day? Speaker 3: I'd be awesome. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: Like a polar bear. Yeah, I like the distraction thing. Yeah. Speaker 2: You did you did this. Speaker 3: I try, yeah, I try to make it normal. Like like I have a coffee, I have breakfast, and then like, yeah, I don't know, like, uh, CGI I was playing pool with the guys and then like, I'm tired. Okay, let me go and try to take a nap. It never works. I'm never able to actually sleep, like maybe for like 20 minutes at most. But but yeah, just normal. Speaker 2: No pressure on your back. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: I have a I have this thing where I think we only have so many good decisions we can make in a day. So I'll make all of my decisions the the day before. Like I'll pack my bag. I'll I'll know exactly what I'm what I'm gonna eat, when I'm gonna eat. So like I wouldn't even drive myself to the arena. I'll have like somebody else drive me or like I won't scroll on my phone. I'll just like cuz to me even like scrolling on my phone, I'm like, that's a one decision, two decisions. I'm like, I'm psychotic. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Smart. That's that's smart. Speaker 1: That's a that's a real thing. Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Speaker 1: Your mental mental capacity is 100% a real thing. Speaker 3: Sure. You have like a battery that like runs out of fuel over the course of the day. That's why we're exhausted at the end of the day. Speaker 2: So that's kind of why I sleep cuz I'm just like, I'm not gonna make any decisions till it matters. Speaker 3: But you decided to sleep. Speaker 2: But I this That's only one decision though. Speaker 3: That's only one. Okay, and it takes up a long time. Speaker 2: I decided that the day before as well. Speaker 3: Ah, okay. Okay. Yeah. Um, you were saying just before we got started, speaking of like social media and distractions, that you're like off it completely. Like you almost don't touch it. Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me give you some background information on that. Coach Taylor, uh, Coach David Taylor here at Oklahoma State, he asked a really good question last summer. So, I mean, a year and a half ago. And he was he was really just talking about who we wanted to be. He wasn't trying to force us. He just wanted to know, he was trying to spark questions that made us think about it. And one question he asked is, are you guys here to be fans of the sport or are you guys here to be athletes of the sport? And I'm like, oh, I was thinking he was talking about it like, if you're sitting there on social media, looking at the rankings, looking at what they're posting, he's like, you're more of a fan than an athlete. And after that talk, I mean, I was like, I'm all in on being a national champion. I want to be an athlete, not a fan. So, I unsubscribed from all the major platforms, or pretty much all the platforms. And, um, you know, most of my friends that make content, um, I still love them to death. But I like muted it cuz I whenever I'm like going on something, I don't I need to be able to get away from wrestling and not have to worry about who's saying this, who's saying that cuz in the past, like I mentioned, um, if I get emotionally involved, I start to my brain goes wild. Like sometimes, Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: That happened. Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, oh, people think like I'm gonna lose this match. Like, shoot, maybe I'm not good enough. Maybe I can't, you know. So whenever that starts to take over, I mean, it's like the death loop from from hell is what it's called. Like in your brain, you just keep Speaker 3: Spiral out. Speaker 1: Yeah, you spiral out of those bad thoughts. So, um, it's I really like to just, you know, if I go on social media, it's usually for trucks, dirt bikes, something else. It's just different. Something different that takes my mind off of it. Speaker 3: Nice. That's nice. So it's more of like you want it to be like a healthy distraction, not like a spiraling deeper into the sport, you're a fan of the sport distraction. That's a I've never looked at it that way. All right. Speaker 1: Trying to use it as a tool, not let it control me is what I'm saying. Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like that. Um, also, you just, I feel like we got to touch on this like you were saying, uh, David Taylor's given you this advice about that. And, uh, can you tell us how it was having David Taylor come on, uh, to the team and like, what was it like before and after and just that whole thing? Speaker 2: You you transitioned, right? You went from, uh, Navy to Speaker 1: Air Force Academy. I was at the Air Force Academy. Because of COVID, we have, uh, an extra year of eligibility. And this is a perfect question for what I'm gonna talk about because I actually was not gonna really, I didn't know if I was gonna come to Oklahoma State yet. It was still one of my top two. But I was like, I was actually, um, and a big thing I do before wrestling, stay calm, is a whole another piece of I love praying a lot. I'm very, you know, I like to consider myself a pretty solid Christian. Um, you know, I like to let God guide me. And this was one of those times when I was like, man, there's two really good schools. I just need a big sign. And cuz I was like, I could I could feel like Speaker 3: Between which two? Speaker 1: Um, all right, I could I'll tell you. I didn't really matter. It was I was gonna go to Oklahoma State or Minnesota. Which is actually also very unique because of where Gable ended up going. And that that could have been a whole another situation whether they would have let him come back or anything. So like, who knows what would have happened. But I'm I'm I'm looking back, I made the right decision. But when I was looking at the schools, um, I was really just sitting there praying about it. And then it got announced like, hey, like Coach David Taylor is gonna be the new head coach. And I'm like, well, actually, he actually called me. And I was like, Speaker 2: The blue and the gold. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 2: David Taylor called you? Speaker 1: Yeah. And as soon as I got the call, I'm like, okay. Let's connect the dots here. Like, I'm pretty sure he got the job. Cuz it was like a really big rumor. And then Oklahoma State told me like, no, like it's not gonna happen. Then he calls me and he's like, hey, I want you to wrestle for me. And I'm like, And to give you some background information, I wanted to quit like a couple times in wrestling. Once when I was 13, 14. David Taylor was like the guy I looked up to that entire time. And having someone like that who you looked up to, and he also he really like got me back into the sport when I wanted to quit. I was watching his videos and it just reinspired me like that love I had for wrestling at one point. And so having someone like that like impactful in your life, give you a call and say, hey, I want you to come wrestle for me. I was like, oh my God. This is a home run. Like there's no. There's no saying no to that. Oh, no. I was like, this this decision's over. But at that time, I'm a man of my word and I told some other coaches, there's been a lot of great coaches in my life that have helped me. And I was like, hey, I'm gonna give I'm gonna go to your school and give you the time of day. And I want to see what your program's about. But I still had two more visits when Coach Taylor called me. So I was like, ah, I'm gonna I wanted to be all in on those visits and pay attention, but all I could think about was Oklahoma State. I'm like, dude, I it was made up, but I wanted to really try my best like give him my attention. But I'm like, dude, I'm going to Oklahoma State. Speaker 3: That's huge. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Your mind was made up. Speaker 1: Are you feeling stuck? Most guys just accept feeling stuck. Stress, low energy, bad sleep, like it's normal, but it's not. So stop feeling stuck, fix the root issues and start living like you used to. Speaker 3: That's incredible. Speaker 2: Easy decision to make. Speaker 3: Bro, yeah. David Taylor. Speaker 1: I'd say it worked. Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's interesting how he runs the room. Like, uh, part of coming here to train was obviously to learn some wrestling. Me specifically, I was like, I wanted some hand fighting. I wanted some upper body tie stuff. But I wanted to see like how how Mr. Taylor runs the room. It's like it's quite interesting. He starts off, you know, some words of wisdom, like what he expects expects from you guys. But you guys are also independent and and so different and stylistically that you kind of like, uh, you don't need as much attention, as much instruction. So you guys are so like, maybe it's some maturity thing too cuz you guys know what to do what he expects of you guys, right? Speaker 1: Exactly. Yes. So I like to put it, he, you have to have a high level group of guys to do what he does. Cuz all the guys in the room, he recruits the guys who want to be the best. And like he he knows that. And he can tell, he knows which one of us like are here to be serious, which is pretty much all of us, obviously. Um, but whenever if you go to a like any room and Coach Taylor walked in there, he might not be useful because he puts a lot of trust in us that we want to be the best. And so when he says, hey, I'm gonna give you 20 minutes to work on whatever you want. If we're like a bunch of unmotivated wrestlers, that's not gonna work in a room of guys that don't want to be absolute savages cuz they're gonna mess around. But he has enough trust in us that whenever he says, hey, go work out on what you want to do, like everyone's in there grinding the entire time. We don't take that as, oh, it's a break. Like, oh, it's time to, you know, he's he's letting us do this. And at that time, the coaches are walking around and helping us. But he also does a really good job building a foundation and setting expectations. Like when I first got here, we he hammered a bunch of technique really fast. And like, he wanted to just set the expectation of, hey, like, this is we do what's best here. We're not messing around. Like, he showed us what to do. And then after that, like, he gives us, he lets the rope go out like, hey, now you take this and apply it to yourself because no one wrestler is the same. Like, it's not wrestling is not cookie cutter. Like, you wrestle different than every you than me. Like, even like with anything in life, no one's the same. And he understands the power and diversity of different technique. Because also like, I'm a heavyweight. I wrestle a lot different than Sergio, the 141 pounder, you know. So it's like, it's really unique that he can kind of let us do what we want. But he also like, um, he shows us some stuff. But it's really nice that for him to it's a relief for him, I'm sure, to be able to just give us the rope and we we use it. Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows everyone there's like super serious high level. So he needs that. It's like a relationship thing. Like he knows everyone's gonna get after it if he gives you some slack like you're saying. Speaker 1: Mhm. Speaker 3: Wow, man. So David Taylor getting there and you start training, how does that like begin? Like where's that sort of where did that start and, uh, I guess up until now, how has that progressed? Speaker 1: Yeah. I think at first it was just cuz I went to the Air Force Academy for four years, well, five since I went to the prep school technically. And that was, um, like academics were pretty stressful there. Like I was taking 18 to 21 credit hours. Wow. And I say this because I did that for like five years and I was like, I I commit I was committed to Oklahoma State. But we call it 60 days of leave. So, in the summers of the Air Force, like we're still doing training. We get a a break here and there. But like, it was five years of a grind. And, um, Coach Taylor, I was like, hey, I've been doing this for like four or five years. I'm gonna take a break and just enjoy my summer. And he was like, okay, you know, but I was like, Speaker 3: All right, have fun. Speaker 1: Well, I I was like, I need to like live my life a little bit. Like I just sacrificed five years. So that summer was really unique because all the guys were in there training like five days a week. And I'm rolling up every two weeks for three days to roll around a little bit and doing my own thing. So that he was like a little like iffy on it. Yeah, but it was so good for me. Like when I can get out and let my brain not do wrestling for a while. When I come back, I'm like so much more focused. Like I was sick. Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Like hungry for it. Speaker 1: Yes, it it's it's a healthy thing for me. Like I need to Speaker 3: We were talking to us about that. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Constantly we were saying like you need to like refuel, like find what recharges you and Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah, what what do you think exactly recharges you? Like if you're like, you do this, let's call it a six or eight week camp to a peak tournament. What are you doing afterwards to like reset? Speaker 1: As much of nothing as possible. Like really chose to. So I'm a big late I love the summer cuz I'm a big late guy. I got a jet ski, got a boat. Like I love to just go out there and just relax and just do nothing. Oh my gosh, it's so nice. Doing that, having a couple beers with the boys, like rewarding yourself for all that hard work you've done. And, um, even this past Christmas, like I was able to get away for like eight days and just hang out with family, go to the hot tub, and just not having to cuz your our brains, it becomes ingrained in us of hard work. Like, it's abnormal to go two days without working out, I feel like for most. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Unless you're injured, it's like it doesn't make sense. Yeah. Speaker 1: And that's why like even injuries, like if you do it right, a lot of guys after injuries come back even better than they would have been because that time off. Yeah, that time off and that have that new hunger that comes. But this this summer was rough with Coach Taylor a little bit. He didn't really voice how he felt a little bit, but I could tell. I was like, okay, I was gone a lot. But he's very honest. Cuz then I started coming back to training and, you know, come August and he's like, all right, you're out of shape. We're gonna get you into shape. And then I'm gonna show you some things that are gonna change your wrestling style. So, you know, after a month, he was watching me. He could see I was back in shape. He's like, all right, like, this phase is done. Now let's do this. And he's like, okay, you need to work on this in your stance. In this shot, you have to keep your head up. And so he let me do that for another month. As soon as I hit that next phase, okay, now you can do this. So it's like a progression thing with Coach Taylor. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: He'll give you something and then you have to get to where he's like, okay, you got that. And only then he'll give you the next step to progress. Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he needs like you need to show that you know what you're doing. Like for karate or jujitsu or anything. Like to move levels, you probably have to show you're proficient in certain moves. Like you're not gonna show him some crazy choke out if it's like, you're not gonna show me something it's my first day. You're not gonna show me something super crazy cuz like I just don't understand it. I need to learn the basics. Like we talked about that. Like I need to learn the basics first. Like I'll I'll try to do like leg ankle stuff with him and he was like, no, he's like, that's not gonna work. Like you need to just do a choke first. I'm like, okay. Speaker 3: He's lying to you. He's trying to throw you off. Speaker 1: Well, he was in my head. It worked. He was choking me out every two seconds. But Speaker 2: You you'd do well in, uh, in grappling. I mean, you just have you have, uh, instincts, you know? Speaker 1: It's well, it's it's really unique. Well, for me in wrestling, I want to have as much forward pressure. Um, I was even rolling around with some of like, even Danny. Like in wrestling, I want to be on top of you. I want to like have my head on you. But come to find out, every time I do that, I'm putting myself in danger cuz you're just locking me up. So it's like I need to almost like be away from you. I'm like, it's such a unique feel, but also like you can't be too far away. I'm I really wish I would have made it today. Speaker 3: It's just it's the distance management. If you stay in that perfect pocket where like we can't really get a grip going, then I mean, that's how wrestlers end up winning these huge tournaments. Cuz there's there's wrestlers wrestlers who transition to Jijitsu and they're killing it. Like there's a huge wave of that happening. So it's Speaker 2: Um, there's, uh, we'll be back in a couple months. We'll we'll we'll train, yeah, for sure. We'll be around. Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Speaker 3: Good. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's honestly too much fun. Like, uh, having, you guys are have a group of high-level athletes. They're intelligent, they're hungry. It's like it's even though you guys don't know much Jijitsu, like we had such a fun time rolling today, you know? It's it's quite interesting. And then obviously the wrestling part is like it's phenomenal as well. Yeah. So we're so lucky to be here. Um, so Zahid was telling us you guys, uh, got into a little Yeah. Speaker 3: Don't you worry. Speaker 2: And I'm really Speaker 3: We asked him before this, is it okay to bring this up? And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see, let's see what Wyatt says. So, Speaker 2: Just just so you know, if you ever want us to cut anything, it's not a problem. Speaker 1: I'm not too worried. I like authenticity. Let's hear it. What do you say? Speaker 2: Okay. Uh, I think he just said you got something with the Versa Climber that, uh, Speaker 3: He snuck in two extra reps and then you guys got into it or something. Speaker 1: So, let me give you some background information. Speaker 2: He's a bitch. Speaker 1: No, Zahid, everyone's different. We all have different things that motivate us. But you really need to know the context. So, World Championships. Zahid's a world champion. He won Worlds this year. I went 0 and 1 at Worlds after having the best success of my life. What I realized is I was like convincing myself, I well, first off, if you're getting better, you're getting worse. There's no in between. You can't like sit there and be like, oh, I'm just gonna maintain. Like, yeah, no, that's not a thing. You're getting worse. I after NCAAs, I had like a big head, I was gonna say. Like, I'm like, I was going to UFC fights. I was going to all these cool events. I was missing training. And I I think in my brain, I thought I was doing it for like a month or two. I did that for six months. And then the World Championships were a month away. And I was like, I'm not prepared. And so, well, come to find out, I didn't do good at Worlds. And I finally realized, as soon as you have a big loss like that, I don't know if you guys have experienced this, but whenever I like have a loss that like I shouldn't have lost that, in my the first thing that comes to my brain is all the things I did that were wrong. Like, all the times I didn't train, all the times I, you know, left and didn't like, all the things you did wrong. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: You justify them in the moment and then it adds up and then you look back and you're like, Speaker 1: I I I could have had four training days here, you know. So that's all in my brain. And I was talking with Zahid that night. I'm like, dude, like, you're like, I want to be a world champion. Like you did a great job. I was really proud. Like I was I was very proud of him. I was giving like he deserved it. He was a world champion. And I'm just gonna say he kind of took that and ran a little too much with what I meant. Speaker 3: You gave him a big head. He's like, yeah, I am. Speaker 1: Well, I was like, hey, like, hey, I was like, I was like, hey, I respect you. You're great. I want to I want to I'm gonna do the ranking events you go to. I'm gonna do this with you cuz I want to be a world champion. And for me, it was more like accountability thing. But Zahid kind of Zahid's a little different. He probably just interpreted a little bit different. But he would get on me all the time. Like I was sick, throwing up. And he was like, oh, you're skipping practice. And it was like, to me, it was mean. It wasn't like jokingly. I'm like, all right, whatever. And so it was so many small events like that that had piled up. Cuz Zahid was calling me out for everything I was doing wrong. I asked him to, I guess. Like I asked him for that heat cuz I want to be a champ. But, you know, some things were legit. Maybe a couple times, it was meaningful. But then that day, it was like a we do competitions on the Versa Climber. Do you guys do the Versa? Speaker 2: We did. Speaker 1: Oh, it sucks. My my lungs are still like on fire slightly. If you look on the board, Caleb Caleb Fisher and I have the record for that. Speaker 3: Yeah, really? Speaker 1: Oh, dude. You I'll have you guys try it tomorrow. It's a team thing. We'll see how close you guys can get. Speaker 3: Oh. Speaker 2: Wait, so we combined our numbers? Speaker 1: You start so you're a team. And as soon as you start, the clock ticks all the way to three minutes. However many you have at three minutes, you stop. So like, however fast you can choose however long you want to go till you switch. Anything. It's up but like it's I like it because most of the time when you switch, like we like, excuse me, like with Zahid, when like the time hits 30, you can like move a little bit extra and then your partner goes and it's like, okay, you went for 32 seconds, not 30. Like, yeah, you're overworking. But it's a competition here. But okay, a lot of this to say, here's the story. Here's what happened. It's the day and we we there's seven of us and we decide, hey, let's go to we said, hey, Zahid and Wyatt, what what's the conditioning? I looked at Zahid, we said bike workout. We said bike workout. So I go to the bike and then Diego Lopez, he's a he's a fighter. So all six of us were on the bike. Or seven of us. It was an odd number. And then they're like, oh, Diego did the the Versa. Let's switch to Versa. And I'm already on the bike like about to start my workout. I'm like, okay, well, there's odd numbers. There's three Versas. There's six of you guys. I'll just bike. And then Zahid looks at me and he's like, wow, Wyatt, taking the easy way, doing the bike? And I'm like, that's crazy cuz that's we literally decided to do the bike. And I'm still doing the bike workout. We decided to do. Speaker 3: Okay, okay. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 3: Oh, Diego's in there now. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Bike is not easy, by the way. Speaker 1: The bike's hard. The bike's hard, man. Dude, it's still a good workout. But Zahid was just egging me on about it. And then he went on the Versa and like started doing extra reps. And so I looked at him. I'm like, dang, Zahid, so you're just gonna get extra reps like that? You know, calling him back out. And then he, um, like looked at me. He mouthed off me again. He said something. And I was like, I'm I've been blowing this off for like a month now. Like a month and a half. And then our assistant coach comes in. And he's like, oh, you guys doing the Versa? Like, getting that work in, yeah? And Zahid's like, yeah, for the ones of us that are doing it. And that something in my brain, something in my brain, like I've been like managing this for like a month. And I'm like, no more. No more. I went to his face. I'm like, are you are you fucking serious? I'm like, you're over here next to reps. And all I know is that's all I said. And then he starts standing up. And I'm like pissed. Like I'm not gonna punch him, but I'm like, I'm like, I shoved him across to the into the like the running machine. I'm like, dude, like, you're he's I was I was saying a lot of bad things. I I usually hold it in, but I was letting it into him. Like, this and he started yelling back. And I said a couple things that were, you know, I was speaking from the heart, you know, but I was like, Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 3: Let the emotions fly. Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, like, dude, yeah, you're a world champion, but like, you're acting like an absolute douchebag. And, um, you know, ever since then, I think he realized like, cuz I'm usually a pretty calm, reserved person. I I don't have very much hate in my heart. I don't like fighting. I mean, of course, like that stuff. But like, I don't I truly think that, you know, we're all different. We we're supposed to have differences. We don't have to punch each other to show each other that. But, um, I think he realized like, oh, this like, maybe I do have a little a little bit of a dog fight in me a little bit because usually you wouldn't you wouldn't never really tell that if you actually know me. But, um, let me know. Hey, he hasn't mouthed off me once since. So, Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: It's good. Maybe it brought you closer. Speaker 1: It kind of did. Well, I think we both learned about each other a lot about how our backgrounds are different and, um, just how like, how we care for people sometimes. And how we're all different. Like, some guys might need you to mouth off to them. But like, if I'm sick and I'm dying and you're yelling at me for being a wussy, like, you're so, you know, I'm so sorry. But Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: He said, we asked him before like, is it cool to bring it up? He's like, yeah, for sure. He's gonna be very nice and it's gonna be good to, you know, to hear his side and everything. And Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he can watch this back. He I mean, that's pretty that's pretty I didn't really change it that much. That's pretty Speaker 3: He's actually watching this. He's like, he's mixing up the story. Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm not gonna tell you everything we said to each other. But I mean, it's all brotherly. Yeah. Speaker 3: No, no, no. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. You guys have such a awesome like brotherhood, camaraderie in there, man. It's cool. Um, another another thing I want to ask you is like the, uh, the whole stilly boys thing. It's like, uh, a whole, uh, culture you guys have built built in there, you know? Can you tell us a bit about that? Like it's Speaker 1: It really is. So, Danny Phillips, um, cameraman Dan, he's he's a dog. He started Speaker 3: He's awesome. He trained with us just now. Speaker 1: Yeah. He loves Jijitsu. If you guys haven't, you know, to tell. But him and Coach Taylor, I think came together and were like, hey, let's just start another Patreon, Stilly Boys. And it's really just life in Stillwater. And something about it just feels good. Like it's like, we're all the Stilly Boys. You're in Stillwater, of course. And I think now that Instagram page is up to like 20,000 followers. Like, just of us posting just of us doing stupid stuff. Like shooting guns, riding dirt bikes, going fishing, doing a bunch of stuff. And, um, and now we actually have like a legit clothing line through Lane Fox. We got hats. We just we just launched it this past weekend. And it was like, um, I'm like doing a little a little deal with them a little bit. Like they're I'm just gonna wear some stuff and we're gonna do maybe a few collabs. And I was trying to go get some of them the merch and most of it was gone. I'm like, oh my gosh, like this is really cool. Speaker 3: Nice. Speaker 1: People love it. I think it looks awesome. Like it looks like, uh, I should have worn my Stilly Boys jacket today. Speaker 3: People love it, man. Speaker 2: That's great. Speaker 3: Dude. Speaker 1: It's okay, man. Gosh, now I feel stupid. Speaker 3: We're roughing it. We should make some, uh, Stilly Boys rash guards, you know? It'd be cool. Speaker 2: Um, speaking of, uh, speaking of fighting, I'm sure you've I've been asked a million times. Do you think this is in your future potentially? Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've even talked a little bit about this. And I truly think that, uh, it's really important to be all in on one thing. Like I don't want to have my hand in five different cookie jars. Right now, my goal is wrestling. And it is only wrestling. You guys are obviously here. I'm gonna do a little bit of fun training during the week. But I want to be the best at wrestling and that's it for now. I don't want to have to try to do two things. I really like to, um, think back to I just talked about like World Championships. I was trying to be a really good wrestler, but I was also trying to be like a social guy. Like go to all these events, do marketing. Like, I can't Speaker 3: Takes away from training a bit. Speaker 1: It took away so much. And I learned from that like, it's for me to be the best, I just I I need to just be able to focus on this. And like I don't have a whole team that does every all this like, it's me and my wife. We do everything ourselves. And, um, you know, I just don't really have like a big team to be able to do like easily social media posts and I do as much as I can that I think is beneficial. Um, and so like, I do some I do post some stuff. A lot of it's clout. Like someone else will make something, I'll accept it, whatever. But, um, I really want to be all in on wrestling. Because I don't want to have any regrets come 2028. And so I think after that, then I'll be like, okay, let's see what the next opportunity is. But I've made up my mind until 2028, it's wrestling. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 2: Okay, so the Olympic aspirations are your, you know, eggs in one basket. Speaker 1: I'm all in. Speaker 2: I'm going for the Olympics. And then potentially, you see where you're at. Um, you know, gold medal for sure. And then then see where where the dust settles and can go from there. Speaker 1: Correct. Exactly. That's the plan. That's the goal. Speaker 3: Yeah. So MMA is, you know, maybe, but it's not a decision for right now. Right now, it's all hands on. Speaker 1: Correct. I'm still dabbling. I'm still learning. Like you guys are here. I want to learn some Jijitsu. I want to get some knowledge cuz cuz I also realized that for to make a transition to an elite sport like MMA or Jijitsu or anything. I can't just walk in and be boom. Like like maybe the learning curve will be lower, but I'm I'm not gonna be able to walk in and just start beating the crap out of people. It's gonna take a couple years to really learn. Speaker 3: You might surprise yourself, man. Speaker 1: Well, I just Speaker 3: Like you might you might do a bit of that. Speaker 1: After after wrestling with this dude, I'm like, it was fun. Even cuz it's so unique to see his, uh, his, uh, or Nikki's skills in like Jijitsu with wrestling. Like I do a wrestling move and like I was actually it made me think a unique way because, you know, some things you have to put yourself in a worse position before it gets better, I feel like. But like he was technically for wrestling, he was giving up some points, but then like he was putting himself in a really good position. Then he was scoring on me and I'm like, wait a second. Like, what the heck? Like, no one's ever done that to me before. So it was such a unique feel. Speaker 3: Very funky like. Speaker 1: It was crazy. I was like, wow, that could actually work in wrestling. Like what he just did to me cuz like if like if you just maybe change a lot to make it legal in wrestling. I'm like, dude, like, I was like, what if I did that? Like, yeah, I might give up two points. We were talking about that. Like two for one. Like, yeah, you give up two, but then what if you get them on their back and pin them like, who cares? It doesn't matter. The match is over. But I don't know, it's really it's it's a unique feel. And so I want to start dabbling here and there to kind of get more comfortable with it. But, um, it's more of like a weekend thing. Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: So he's not gonna take away your focus from Olympics 2028. Speaker 1: Correct. Speaker 2: Um, babies in the future? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 2: Knock 'em out. Speaker 1: Looking to start a family here soon. Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go. Speaker 1: That's good. Speaker 3: Wyatt Hendrickson Army. Speaker 1: I'm trying to raise a big army. My wife's kind of scared. So I came out at 10 pounds, 5 ounces. My wife's not like huge, so she's like, what? Speaker 2: Yeah. I was I was 9, 10. But 10 10 is big. Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. So, um, Speaker 2: That's exciting. I've actually, uh, I've studied I've studied the art of making a boy. Um, so I can tell you. Speaker 1: What is it? Tell me. I I love Coach Taylor. He's got three girls. Speaker 2: I know. I know. I dude, I saw that. I was like, I could send this guy the book. Speaker 3: There's a book. It's a pamphlet. It's more of a pamphlet than a book, but Speaker 2: It's actually yeah, so I read a book how to how to conceive a boy. And it worked for me. One I'm one for one right now. Speaker 3: Out of boy. Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So, Speaker 3: Out of boy. Out of boy. Speaker 2: Out of boy. Out of boy. Um, uh, it's really just about, uh, you know, catch her peak ovulation, save up your sperm for like a couple days. Speaker 3: In a jar. Speaker 2: Yeah, just right. Speaker 3: I'm joking. I'm joking. Speaker 2: Save it all but Speaker 1: Save the science says. Speaker 3: You gotta yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: Save it up for a couple couple days. Uh, make sure she orgasms and then send send it in. No, no. Then send it in doggy and hope for the best. Yep. Speaker 1: I'm I'm out of luck there. Speaker 3: Yeah, female orgasms are a myth. See, this book was actually written by women. Yeah, yeah, it's fake. It's it's like the Loch Ness monster. It's not. Yeah, yeah. Speaker 2: I thought that was fake. Make sure she orgasms, then send it in doggy and hope for the best. Speaker 3: Did you write the book and just like start like spamming all the buttons? Speaker 2: Dude, I I talked I talked to some of my friends that have that have boys and that they they recommended this book. And I followed the steps. And just for reference, I only I I only finished inside of her once until we found out she was, uh, pregnant. So I was like, this one sperm is is gonna be my son. And I never came again inside until we had confirmation she was pregnant. So, Speaker 3: Imagine throwing darts and the only one you've ever thrown in your life is a perfect bullseye and then you walk away. Speaker 2: One shot, one kill. Sniper. Sniper. So, I'll send you the book if you want some boy wrestlers, you know? Speaker 1: I definitely want some boy wrestlers. Well, then Coach Kennedy, like Coach Kennedy's got a boy. And, um, they've dude, he's got like, they've got like five kids. Well, I know Coach Taylor like, he wants a boy. You can send him the pamphlet. Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna send him the book. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. I'll just hit hit his DM like, hey, you know, no disrespect, but this is like, if you want a boy. Speaker 1: He he makes a good girl dad though. I've so if you've even been he has a whole place here. I don't know if you went to his house. Speaker 2: I know. Speaker 1: It's he he like, so we all have a different niche of stuff we like. For Coach Taylor, it's awesome. And I love animals too, but he loves animals. He has like a petting zoo at his house. I'm not kidding. He's got like super rare chickens. Like, bunch of Highland cows, donkeys. Speaker 2: Really? Speaker 3: Those are the fluffy ones, though. Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like miniature too. They're mini Highland cows. Like this big. He's talking about some ponies. Like, it's crazy. And his his little girls are like five like like three or four. And they'll grab your hand and be like, come on, we're gonna feed the donkeys. And they're like, they're running the place. Like they're in charge. Like, dude, like, do you want to give it a treat? Here, like, get show you the treats to give to them. But Speaker 3: So awesome. Speaker 1: That's amazing. It's it's really it's really cute. But I think a boy in the mix wouldn't be bad. He'd have three older sisters though. Speaker 3: That's awesome. Speaker 1: That's okay. Make him tough. Yeah. I I I have no I have just two sisters. Older and younger. No brothers. Oh, nice. It was so funny wrestling growing up. Get my older sister like, you know, why needs to wrestle. She hated it so bad. Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet. Speaker 1: Um, can you can you tell us about your life in the Air Force and how that like what has that taught you? How it relates to wrestling? You were saying a bit before about like you have to like calm yourself down in similar ways. That sounded really interesting. Um, yeah, please. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Absolutely. So I went to the Air Force Academy for four years and a lot of people are curious of the program I'm in right now. And it's a very small program. There's uh only like three or four officers that are in the program. It's called WCAP. It's the World Class Athlete Program. Really what that is and because I they put so much money into training me at the academy. I have a real job in the Air Force. I'm an acquisitions officer. It's like it's a money position. But right now I'm obviously not doing that. I'm wrestling. I applied for the WCAP, the World Class Athlete Program. So what that allows me to do is pretty much I said, hey, like to the big Air Force, hey, I'm really proficient at my sport. And and this is for any sport, not just wrestling. And I was like, hey, I'm proficient at my sport. I'd like to be in a I I really do think I'm a 2028 Olympic hopeful. I submit my package saying, I want you guys to please let me train for this goal. And it they approved it. And so I get to choose wherever I want to train in the country. I chose Stillwater. It's the best place to train in the world. And so now until 2028, I'm just gonna be a wrestler. But I learned a lot of good things at the Air Force Academy and I attribute a lot of my success to that because it really taught me discipline. And there was a lot of situations where, um, I needed to stay calm. There's a couple tests we did. A couple of my friends are stoes and crows. It's like the Navy SEAL but in the Air Force. And the the trainings for that are like like 25 meter underwaters with like one breath. And you do it like on a like every minute. You have to do like 10 of them. And then you tie your hands behind your back, you tie your feet behind your back and you like bob for like 10 minutes. You do flips. Speaker 3: Stoes and crows. Speaker 1: It's the special tactics officer and combat rescue officer. Speaker 3: Up up and down in the pool and. Speaker 1: Yeah. So all that type of stuff. My my best friend's doing it, but I just did it like to help him. I kind of thought about doing it, but dude, like I had so many times when I was just like doing it to help him. I was only doing half of what he was doing. And I was like, we call it popping. If you pop out of the water when you're not supposed to, it's called popping. He refuses to pop. He's like, as soon as I do it once, he he will pass out before he does. He's like, nope, I'm just not gonna do it. He just he made up his mind. Me, I'm like freaking out. Like, so that was something that was really cool. But then also there's like a 44-hour challenge. I throw you in the wilderness. They give you just enough. I'm a big guy. They give you just enough food, whatever. We can't really hunt. Like I don't have a gun or a knife on me. But, you know, just trucking miles and miles and miles and that was fun for me. But we had this one guy in our in our group. Doesn't matter, but he was just I had to carry his ruck too. And he couldn't like walk another mile. I'm like, dude, Speaker 3: Just gave up. Speaker 1: Yeah, well, cuz like I'm giving up. It's not a thing. You don't give up, dude. And he's like, yeah, he's like, oh, my feet hurt. I'm like, I'm about to break your leg so you can't walk anymore. But there was just a lot of cool situations that, um, really taught me discipline and being a good leader cuz for the first year, you just get bullied. Um, you're a yeah, it's it's tough. Um, but I can't complain too much cuz it was COVID. And it was so they had like rules for cardio cuz it could hurt our lungs. So we could it sucked because my my best strength is physical, not mental. So instead we they only let us do pushups like a Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you gonna do? Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Speaker 1: They'd only let us do pushups for a minute. And then they'd throw us back inside and make us like memorize all these pamphlets. And I'm like, oh my gosh, dude. I can't read. I was like, give me a pull-up bar. This is stupid. But no, I'm really excited that I'll be on this program for a couple more years and then I'll go, uh, fulfill my, uh, commitment. But I have active duty right now. It's pretty cool. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: So, Speaker 3: So WCAP, that's what it's Speaker 1: World Class Athlete Program. Speaker 3: Yeah, and then so you're basically you're technically still in the Air Force and then you're gonna pursue these athletic goals and then after that, back to Air Force full-time. Speaker 1: Correct. Exactly. Wow. It's a pretty unique program. Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, dude. Speaker 1: If you people have never heard it, I'm like, yeah, you probably never will again. It's a very rare thing. But the qualifications are difficult. Like I had to be like a high, you know, top three in the NCAA. Um, Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not just gonna give that to anyone. Speaker 1: Yeah, well, because a lot of people were abusing it. They were just trying to get in the program because, I mean, I submit I'm training reports, but I could be making it all up. Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. You could be like, I trained eight times. Speaker 1: I could be like, oh, I'm getting 30, 40 hours a week of training. And it's like, well, there's no proof of that. And so a lot of people were doing that and then not seeing success. And they're realizing, oh, a lot of people are doing this to just like kick their feet off and I'm a world class athlete. Yeah, and I'm like, not like I've made it pretty clear. I'm taking this very seriously. And I'm pretty sure they can see that. So, Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 2: Um, you grew up racing motocross a little bit, huh? Speaker 1: I did. Speaker 2: Oh. What what was the ages? Speaker 1: I started when I was probably like, I started riding when I was like a kid. Like dirt bikes, four wheelers. My dad didn't want me to race cuz he he broke his back racing motocross. Yeah. He also did some stupid stuff, but whatever. But he was like, oh, I don't want you racing and getting hurt. And so, but he let me do hair scrambles, which is like endurance races. I did that. Started when I was like probably 11 or 12. And, um, and there were my dad realized it was kind of good for wrestling because I think the biggest one I did was was called the Valentine Massacre. It was four hours. Speaker 2: Finally. Speaker 3: Valentine Massacre. Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty cool. Well, you're supposed to be on a two-man team. So you can tag out. I did it solo for the entire four hours. And my dad was like, dang. I'm like, dad, I love this. Like, how's that good for wrestling? Endurance. Okay. Dude, it's endurance. Speaker 3: Oh, that's awesome. Speaker 1: I was like, how so? Like you're Speaker 3: How so? Like you're what? Like squatting the whole time or like Speaker 1: After after this, let's go to I'll go on my dirt bike. You ride for 20 minutes on a trail and you you tell me how your arms are. Speaker 3: All right. I'm in. Speaker 1: I'm in. It's awesome. Dude, Danny Danny been talking about going like Speaker 3: I'm in. Speaker 1: Danny and I have the same bike too. Oh, sick. It's awesome. WR? Yeah, WR 450. We have like the exact same bike. But dude, like I can't ride anything else. Speaker 3: WR? Speaker 1: They don't break. I feel like I've I hear so many stories they're breaking down and like Speaker 3: They don't break. Speaker 1: Dude, if you take care of it. If you take care of your stuff, like it'll yeah. I've had my four wheeler, that's a Kawasaki, but even then we had like, uh, we had a couple, uh, Raptors, 700s and 450s, four wheelers. If you take people just don't take care of their crap. I was raised to take care of my crap. You look at my truck right now, it's gonna be clean. I'm not if I go out dirty, I'm gonna make sure I take care of it. Like, that's just kind of the way I was raised. But a lot of guys like, they just don't take care of their stuff. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: This guy leases his truck dirty all the time, man. Unbelievable. Speaker 1: I use it. That's that yeah, some people call me a payment princess. I'm like, well, dude, if I if I use it like, I want to clean it up and make sure it's good. But like I spent a lot of money on this truck. I'm not gonna let it break down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I keep I mean, I oil change every 5,000 miles, but I I hit some trails like like the day before I left. So I didn't clean it, but whatever. Speaker 3: Fuck yeah. Speaker 1: It's like, uh, it's a shield. It's an extra shield, you know? The the inside of the truck is clean. Yeah, I made it sound a little bit more. I don't like I'm not like super crazy about that. But just for like if I use something, you gotta clean it. You know, my for sure. I used to I used to never want to do that. Like I'd ride my dirt bike and put it in the garage. My dad's like, you serious? Go wash it. I'm like, I'm gonna ride tomorrow. He's like, well, if you take a shit, you're not gonna wipe your ass. You're gonna take a crap tonight. I'm like, Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Take a shit tomorrow again. Yeah, I'm like, it's like, huh, it's actually a good kind of a point, but I hated it so much all the time. That's awesome. That was the exact same way. I think it teaches a bit of responsibility. It does. That was the biggest thing. You're like tired after riding. So you you wanted to have the fun. Now you have to, you know, Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah, we go shoot guns. He's like, you get back, he's like, you clean it. Don't let it sit there dirty. You know, we would shoot a lot though. We would shoot a lot. Yeah. You go through ammo so fast when you're having fun. Like you think you buy like 100 rounds and then it last me like maybe the first five minutes. What do you what do you killin' deer with? What caliber? Um, so deer, I just use a I use a 243 Winchester. So that's like it's a pretty simple bullet. And I'm not shooting long distance. Like I don't do anything crazy. Some people have like a 7 PRC, which is like, I mean, you can that's what you shoot like my dad's what my dad has. You can shoot like that's like what the guys that shoot two miles shoot. Speaker 3: It's crazy. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 3: And still accurate like. Speaker 1: Yeah. 7 PRC's like the gun. But for me, so I shot an elk this year and I used a 300 Ultra Mag. So that's that's a freaking that's a big old bullet. But I was I shot it maybe 250 yards, you know. On a freehanded on like a little stand, which was really I was still shaking like crazy. Yeah. Well, I'm used to like you get the shakes when you Yeah. Yeah. Fuck fever. If you've ever had buck fever. No, I've seen videos. I don't know. Oh my gosh, dude. It is so after you shoot him, then you're like, like why is so adrenaline dump or something? You're looking at a yeah, you're looking at a yeah. Taking a life, man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a crazy like like it's it's it's so crazy. But, um, man. I'm just I'm sorry. I shot a nice elk. I was still I was still excited. But right after I was freaking out. You have to witness buck fever, dude. It's awesome. Speaker 3: I'd love to. Speaker 1: When you uh you field dress an elk, right? Do you are you cutting are you cutting her up in the field and then like packing out or you just carry the whole thing? Speaker 3: I want to. Speaker 1: So, luckily where we were, it was on a place like we knew all like we knew the owners where we were where we were hunting. And so we had to drag it a little bit. So as soon as we kill it, you shoot it and then we had we loaded back up into the truck. We actually we I think we we gutted it right there. So we had people there to help us. Like I've I know how to gut a deer. I'm not the best at it. These guys are like professionals. Like they're practically like guides. Yeah. So they're like they've done this like 100 times. Um, I I love I love hunting, but the smell of a fresh animal when it's it's kind of kind of gross. Like you cut it open, it's like hot. I'm sitting there holding the ribs apart. Like I'm double elbows deep holding this thing trying to get the guts out. Oh my gosh, it's crazy. It's like all warm, but you you you dress it right there. You gut it out. And then we had a winch on the truck. We had to pull it down a ravine and back up. 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